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Old 03-19-2008, 06:08 PM
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How to Create an Angry American.

I have been visiting a forum consisting of dumbed down sheeple to basically experiment with a theory of mine. The experiment involves proving that most people are literally under a hypnotic spell. I have been posting evidence like we find on this forum that 9/11 was an inside job and I noticed no matter what evidence you give them or how you explain it just does not compute.

I had very interesting responses to this 6 minute video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKyCpCrH3cY

Basically one guy watched it but could not remember what he saw but he said he liked the music.

Here is another guys response. Note that he never read, watched or paid attention to anything I said nor can he because of the hypnotic state he is in.

"I generally read people's well thought out posts--of which you have had a few. I don't much care for cannned trash like articles or videos or audios or whatever.

I referred to you as a "loon" because at the point I came into this discussion, the main thing being talked about--by you and others--was this conspiratorial crap that indeed DID sound strikingly similar to the same conspiratorial crap a generation ago with the Birchers--the Zionist silliness, etc.

If indeed, that ISN'T your main point, and if your own deal boils down to warmed over Bush-hate and anti-war idiocy, then bring it on.

I haven't listened to your little tape, but I bet it comes down to the same set of facts--Bush people undeniably saying what you claim. However, sick leftists see it as lies, while good normal common sense America-loving Americans see it as merely the same inconvenient truth that Bush, etc. say and you leftists routinely deny.

I was really hoping to hear more from you on this culling thing--like WHO are the 500 million that will remain, and who and how will do the culling? THAT is interesting. The tired leftist America-hate and anti-war idiocy is boring.
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Old 03-19-2008, 06:15 PM
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This kind of lying and doublethink is actually extremely sophisticated mind control.

A way of driving the public towards pre-determined outcomes.

This kind of stuff comes out of places like the RAND Corporations, Delphi Technique, etc..
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Old 03-19-2008, 06:18 PM
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This kind of lying and doublethink is actually extremely sophisticated mind control.

A way of driving the public towards pre-determined outcomes.

This kind of stuff comes out of places like the RAND Corporations, Delphi Technique, etc..

Very true. Marxist hegelian dialectical thought in action.
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Old 03-19-2008, 07:28 PM
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Drugs in the water

Now we are starting to understand that mix of anti-depressants and hormones and such found in the muni water supplies.

Me personally.. I pump it from the ground, chlorinate it, UV filter, De-ionization, Carbon... that way I know what I've got coming out of my tap and flowing in my toilets.

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Old 03-20-2008, 01:47 AM
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It has been my experience that the majority, if not the vast majority, of people aren't really dumb and not that much brain-washed. It's more as they've been conditioned (a kind of brain-washing I guess you can say) to believe that if they will just play along with whatever the dominate societal belief is, no matter if it's right or wrong just as long as you pretend it's right, everything will be alright.

It's like the masses has been meticulously conditioned to be ostriches and whenever there's some troubling societal condition, they are to, figuratively, stick their head in the ground and pretend they don't see it. That its not really there.

The vast majority, if not all, of the people I argue with about 9/11 being an inside job deep down knows its true. Or, at least, knows there alot of b***s*** to the official story. I can tell it in the way they frame their argument, the expression on their face, the look in their eyes, the fake laughter, all of that. They really know the deal, they're just too scared to face the reality of it. While at the same time hate your guts for having the spine to stand up to the lies. Believe me, I've been through the vehement attacks (no martyrism brag, just facts).

A couple of years ago I came upon this post that really hit home for me.

Wonder Why Most People Don't Want to Hear What You Have to Say?

"Most people prefer to believe their leaders are just and fair even in the face of evidence to the contrary, because ONCE A CITIZEN ACKNOWLEDGES that the government under which they live is LYING AND CORRUPT, the CITIZEN HAS TO CHOOSE WHAT HE OR SHE WILL DO ABOUT IT.

To take action in the face of a corrupt government entails risks of harm to life and loved ones. To choose to do nothing is to surrender one's self-image of standing for principles. MOST PEOPLE DO NOT HAVE THE COURAGE TO FACE THAT CHOICE. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give MORAL COWARDS an excuse not to think at all."


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Old 03-20-2008, 07:57 AM
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Great quote Charlie. I am going to use it.

I never for a minute thought I could do it but I broke some of them sheeple down. I had a guy ripping me like crazy and all of a sudden he basically told me he sees now and he is scared. I told him "with God on our side what is there to be afraid of?" I got the whole damn forum on the run!

Check out this exchange. I bring it because I think it can connect some dots for people here also.

On 3/20/2008 1:04:48 AM Poster #2 wrote:

"Sht, an hour and 15 minutes WTF. I'll try. I started watchin it 5 minutes ago whew that is a lot of my non- productive time to dedicate to this boring sht. But I'll keep watching."
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My reply:
"You don't have to watch that Lindsey Williams video Poster #2.

I just wanted you people to watch this 6 minute one......oops I lied, it is 6 minutes 56 seconds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKyCpCrH3cY

The 75 minute video was for the guy that wanted to know the real reason why the government blocks the drilling of Alaska's oil to it's fullest extent.

Now Poster #1 may want to read this and watch that 75 minute video so he can see how the culling of the population will be made possible. Eventually this piece is necessary to complete the puzzle.

Basically the oil is capped in Alaska to get the oil producing countries working with the luciferian Cabal plan for a one world government. They use every tool at their disposal and will even resort to violence if they have to.

In a nut shell there is more oil in Alaska than in Saudi Arabia but the value of the fake dollar is held up by oil. You may have heard of the term "petrodollar". The goverment has basically classified some huge discoveries and purposely reduces the capacity of gasoline refining and natural gas production just like OPEC reduces oil sales.

The way the petrodollar works is the oil exporting nations of the world must demand dollars for their oil. If they don't they get attacked by the US military and if it is a big job, a consortium of UN members attack them.

What I am saying is we are paying the national debt through the price of fossil fuel. The reason is a criminal cabal, which literally worships lucifer, wants something called a New World Order. Pax Americana is not the end goal, it is a smokescreen for this much bigger goal of world domination.

They are creating superstates like the European Union, the North American Union, and the Asian Union. The real goal is a one world government. That's ultimately what everything they do revolves around and they will stop at nothing to accomplish it. They want to legally cross existing sovereign state's jurisdictions to enslave everyone.

Yeah, you heard me. They want to merge Canada, Mexico, and the USA. You will lose your rights and you will see a huge reduction in your standard of living and eventually you and your children will be slaves and/or murdered by them. The funny part is they will get you to volunteer for this.

The only way America can tax foreign countries, subjugate them and keep the fake dollar from completely collapsing is through oil. Gold is honest money and they had to try to eliminate it for the purpose of banking. Henry Kissinger negotiated a treaty with the oil producing countries of the world in 1967 in which the US would buy their oil but the US would set the price and the big profits would go to the Wall Street banks and be funneled to the Fleet Street banks in London. The plan was for Nixon to take the US off the international gold standard in 1971.

In other words, before 1933 the Federal Reserve Note was backed by gold. The Great Depression was purposely executed to create an emergency to pass socialist engineering legislation and a banking holiday declared in 1933 gave them the excuse to confiscate the people's gold.

There were three countries that refused to sign that Treaty in 1967. They were Iraq, Iran and Venezuela.

Saddam was demanding Euros for oil, that's why he had to be taken out. Same with Afganistan, they were blocking a giant Unocal pipeline."


Poster #3: 3/20/2008 8:43:54 AM

Just the sake of argument, if oil is a commodity, and gold is a commodity, why is it OK for dollars to be backed by gold, but not oil?

And, for crying out loud, put the “puzzle” together for us once and for all.


My reply:
Because the petrodollar is enforced by the military.

That's tyranny.

How would you like it, if by threat of bodily harm, I taxed you. That's slavery you a$$hole.

If you get some special privilege by turning on your brothers that's fine. Just quit pissing down my leg and telling me it's raining because I am not a slave, I am a King. I am a natural born Wisconsinite, and I am not taking this $hit.

My reply:

The reason the US government, which is actually just a tool of the international luciferian cabal, has allowed the exportation of it's industry and the not so secret distribution of it's weaponry technology to countries like China, is to control those nations. They must be brought aboard this New World Order. They create bogeymen like Bin Laden for the same reason. It's called the Hegelian Dialectic, they create a crisis to gain control, or problem, reaction, solution. They must get all nations of the world on board so they trade with them and force them to hold the world's reserve currency, the fake dollar.

Can you see how the US can run massive deficits without the currency completely collapsing now? They will rachet the dollar down to suck resources out of people all over the world, including us here. The plan will eventually fail miserably just the same because it is simply another Tower of Babel. What it will succeed in doing, and this is why God allows it, is it will succeed in destroying those who worship this anti-christ beast. That is God's plan. He created these luciferian monsters to destroy those who are not faithful to Him. Who else could be so brilliant to create such a thing but God?

Iran had a democratic government in the 1950's but that government was toppled by.....yup, you guessed it...the CIA. They installed their puppet, the Shah of Iran but their intelligence service, the Savak, was incredibly ruthless and hated by the Iranian people and that sowed the seeds for the Shah's downfall. The religious right gained power because they opposed the Shah's policy of cow towing to the luciferian Cabal and the Iranian people were tired of being tortured to death and having body parts chopped off for no good reason. Everyone there had a relative who had been tortured.

And that's how we find ourselves at war in the middle east.

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Dollar inflation is how other countries are taxed by powers outside of their juridiction. The Global warming scam is another way to institute global taxation. It will be a charge in additinon to the current gasoline tax and other fuels. Once they get their toe in the door they try for their foot and once they get that they.........
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Old 03-20-2008, 08:55 AM
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Petrodollar

Rott.. I love that last post. You have a great "in your face .. moron" way of putting things to the average sheep (or moonstruck cow)

What do you think about the pegged currencies of the OPEC being switched from US Dollar to Euro? When that goes through, the price of OPEC crude will skyrocket because their currency is pegged to the stronger Euro so it will cost us more US dollars to buy that same barrel of crude.. and then they will take those inflated dollars and buy our grain which they will then sell at a profit based on the Euro...

Is that a scam or what? I'm not a terrorist or violent person by nature.. but Tim McVeigh had a point when he stated that the Militia movement missed a golden opportunity after his little stunt in '95. He was "hoping" that would spark a revolution. I'm not endorsing wack jobs like that ... but more people in the WORLD need to wake up and smell the coffee before it's too late. 'Ole Unabomber Ted Kaczynski also has some great points about technology being an enabling factor in the corruption of society.. he just took a strange and violent route to express his opinion.

If enough people would wake up and take the Ghandi approach... just stop participating and stop supporting and the powers that be will collapse.

Hence the reason I've been working on energy and sustanance independence for years now. My neighbors all thought I was a wack job .. making my own fuel, growing my own food, cutting my own lumber, putting up windmills .. till the price of fuel doubled... now their coming to me on how to convert their cars and furnaces. I can't change the world for everyone, only myself.

And on global warming.. I'm on the fence on that one... it's freaking snowing like mad here.. on this first day of spring. 105"+ this year so far... "above average"... But you still can't ignore the fact that 1250 square miles of anartica just dissapeared in less than 3 weeks in '03. The earth and nature will go on.. with our without us.


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Old 03-20-2008, 09:36 AM
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If enough people would wake up and take the Ghandi approach... just stop participating and stop supporting and the powers that be will collapse.
MAN, DID YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD RIGHT THERE!!!

I've been saying for years if everyone would seriously cut back on the use of those doggone cards, if not just relinquish them all together, and seriously take other non-compliance stances too, this thing (NWO) would collapse almost over night!!!

Plus you're talking about steps to get off the grid, damn, where a thumbs-up icon when you need one?!!

And Rottweiler, really good dialogue exchange man.
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I don't know if it is right but I do enjoy dropping the hammer on ignorance.

If the petro dollar is caput then the dollar must devalue by a lot more because foreign countries and people will no longer be forced to hold a depreciating asset.

If there is a war with Iraq we are really going to be screwed as gasoline will hit $6 a gallon in a matter of days. $4 gas is already a given for this summer as it is.

Nobody really wants the damn FRN. It isn't going near as far as it did 7 years ago for people vacationing overseas and commodities have quadrupled.

That means the economy will suck bad by design to lay the ground work for the Amero and the North American Union.

McVeigh didn't blow up the Murrah Federal Building and Bin Laden did not blow up the WTC. The luciferian NWO Cabal did.

I agree with your Ghandi approach for now but I like any approach that does not cosist of being a moonstruck cow.

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Rott.. I love that last post. You have a great "in your face .. moron" way of putting things to the average sheep (or moonstruck cow)

What do you think about the pegged currencies of the OPEC being switched from US Dollar to Euro? When that goes through, the price of OPEC crude will skyrocket because their currency is pegged to the stronger Euro so it will cost us more US dollars to buy that same barrel of crude.. and then they will take those inflated dollars and buy our grain which they will then sell at a profit based on the Euro...

Is that a scam or what? I'm not a terrorist or violent person by nature.. but Tim McVeigh had a point when he stated that the Militia movement missed a golden opportunity after his little stunt in '95. He was "hoping" that would spark a revolution. I'm not endorsing wack jobs like that ... but more people in the WORLD need to wake up and smell the coffee before it's too late. 'Ole Unabomber Ted Kaczynski also has some great points about technology being an enabling factor in the corruption of society.. he just took a strange and violent route to express his opinion.

If enough people would wake up and take the Ghandi approach... just stop participating and stop supporting and the powers that be will collapse.

Hence the reason I've been working on energy and sustanance independence for years now. My neighbors all thought I was a wack job .. making my own fuel, growing my own food, cutting my own lumber, putting up windmills .. till the price of fuel doubled... now their coming to me on how to convert their cars and furnaces. I can't change the world for everyone, only myself.

And on global warming.. I'm on the fence on that one... it's freaking snowing like mad here.. on this first day of spring. 105"+ this year so far... "above average"... But you still can't ignore the fact that 1250 square miles of anartica just dissapeared in less than 3 weeks in '03. The earth and nature will go on.. with our without us.


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'Ole Unabomber Ted Kaczynski also has some great points about technology being an enabling factor in the corruption of society.. he just took a strange and violent route to express his opinion.
Indeed, the Unabomber Manifesto is a classic (and greatly overlooked) statement on the politics of freedom:

http://www.newshare.com/Newshare/Com...manifesto.html

I don't know that history will judge his actions as being altogether that strange or violent. Depends on who wins the upcoming "war", I suppose. Certainly he rained far less death, destruction and devastation on earth than Bush, or Monsanto, or even your average Congressman, does from 9-5 day and in and day out, and what violence he did exact was done w/ what, to him at least, was a noble purpose.

I've heard rumors from fairly reliable sources that he was actually a very high-ranking CIA asset who simply decided to "go off the reservation," so to speak. Hence why he was so difficult to catch: he was trained by the very best in the field.
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