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Old 03-20-2008, 11:45 PM
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Lots of questions in need of advise Im a serious noob

first i hope this is the place to post this...

Im a 26 year old male from lehighton pennsylvania. I have 2 pieces of property one free and clear(no mortgage) that i recently subdivided and the other with my home.. i have a mortgage of 79,000 and some other debt in the 10 to 15 thousand dollar range. I own and operate a small local recording studio for very little money and want to become a state national. I am selling the free acre of land and am going to use that money for this process... Please please please tell me where to start.... I want to be free, own my land and my car, and get the rest of america on track... so, where do i start? How much might this cost? will i end up in a secret prison? anyone in eastern pa want to meet up let me know....


thank you
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Old 03-21-2008, 09:23 AM
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Noob start...

You know... it might not be a bad idea to compose a long term program plus a quick start program for the road to sovereignty. It is a long journey and without end. The list below is in no way to be construed as complete.

Audio
http://www.georgegordon.org/radio.html

Reading
The Red Amendment by LB Bork (http://www.redamendment.net/home.php)
Invisible Contracts by George Mercier (Google-fu for it)
... this listing doesn't even begin to attempt to do justice of what you should read ....

Law
Jurisdictionary (http://www.jurisdictionary.com/)
George Gordan School of Law (http://www.georgegordon.org/Whatis.htm)
Marc Stevens' Adventures in Legal Land (http://www.adventuresinlegalland.com)
David Miller [Refusal for Cause] (can be found on this forum)
Contract Law (Google-fu)
Common Law (Google-fu)
Land Patent (this forum)
Administrative Law [Administrative Procedures Act] (Google-fu)
Statutory Law (Google-fu)
sooooooooo much more than this paltry list.....

Self-sufficiency
Earthships (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=_ozX_nt5A4o )
Mother Earth News (http://www.motherearthnews.com/)
Seed storage (http://growingtaste.com/storage.shtml)
MetaEfficient (http://www.metaefficient.com)
Gardening & Crop growing (Google-fu)
... again, a mere meager list....


There are TONS more material to read, study, and contemplate. This forum is a fantastic start. I have tons of material as well. Let me know what your pleasure is. My current fascination is Negotiable Instruments and games of Commerce (although I am seeking to reduce my exposure (and liability) to both).

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Old 03-21-2008, 09:48 AM
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1st things first

Buy a Law dictionary

Preferably Black's 4th, 5th, and 6th & Ballentine's 3rd

You cannot skip that

You really need visit the following sites:

theredamendment.com

jurisdictionary.com

adventuresinlegalland.com

americascaesar.com

Don't get caught up in the "free stuff" debt elimination UCC/strawman stuff that is spouted here
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Old 03-22-2008, 05:00 AM
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There are many merits to 14th Amendment citizenship approach. However it all leads to the right to Refuse for Cause and redeem lawful money.



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It is worth noting that the fealty to the Pope, which you cited for its explicit mention of the Templar abbey in Dover, is the legal basis for the invalidation of the Magna Carta after it was sealed at Runnymede.
During discussion about the Treaty of 1213 and the Magna Charta (1215).

http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/medieval/magframe.htm
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/john1a.html

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Old 03-23-2008, 08:58 AM
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first i hope this is the place to post this...

Im a 26 year old male from lehighton pennsylvania. I have 2 pieces of property one free and clear(no mortgage) that i recently subdivided and the other with my home.. i have a mortgage of 79,000 and some other debt in the 10 to 15 thousand dollar range. I own and operate a small local recording studio for very little money and want to become a state national. I am selling the free acre of land and am going to use that money for this process... Please please please tell me where to start.... I want to be free, own my land and my car, and get the rest of america on track... so, where do i start? How much might this cost? will i end up in a secret prison? anyone in eastern pa want to meet up let me know....


thank you


Everything you have ever bought - paid of or not, with private credit from the Fed has a prior lien against it by the Treasury. After all, you have only provided Federal Reserve credit for the property. The title in allodium is not redeemed.

http://www.silverbearcafe.com/private/convincing.html
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...06869308133588

Bring up both links and play the text window while listening to the article in the video. The article is old enough that the author seemed under the impression one could still get US notes in form. Maybe so in 1984.

The purpose of Constitutions is that we be sovereign. We form home rule cities and towns for examples. Even counties and townships, hundreds, frank pledges parishes...

That is the sovereignty right there. If you do not have these structures - even access to general filings at the county clerk and recorder then you must simply become the judicial structure yourself. (attached)


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It is worth noting that the fealty to the Pope, which you cited for its explicit mention of the Templar abbey in Dover, is the legal basis for the invalidation of the Magna Carta after it was sealed at Runnymede.
During discussion about the Treaty of 1213 and the Magna Charta (1215).

http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/medieval/magframe.htm
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/john1a.html
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Old 03-23-2008, 08:55 PM
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Welcome janusx!

I suggest looking in to this approach;

http://embark.to/sovereign-without-subject

They have seminar coming up in April. (attached)
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Old 04-04-2008, 02:20 PM
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Thanks alot for the help! Im getting very far. I have a new post up and few questions here

http://www.suijuris.net/forum/land-o...billboard.html


maybe someone can help me out....
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Old 04-29-2008, 04:47 PM
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Soverign & Land Patent

A Land Patent is only good when debt is accord after you placed the Land Patent and debt you have before the Land Patent will be no good, as far as being a Sovereign i am in the process of the same you need to have affidavits claiming your rights and who you truley are then you have to send them out to the governing bodies you have to denounce your ssn# i live in central pennsylvania if you wish to learn more you can e-mail at kaseem25@yahoo.com i will definately give you a lot of information
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