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Old 04-04-2008, 10:20 AM
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Sounds familar..

Depends on what the meaning of the word "is" is your honor...

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Old 04-04-2008, 11:24 AM
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the essence of your problem

Dorkenbutt, what you have are not bona fide legal questions. Your questions have been asked and answered. Now you come up with another set that you expect me to answer. That's one slippery slope I am not going to start down, because your issues are not really legal, they are political.

You don't like the way the government is currently set up in this country. Well, join the club. But you have the same options about how to fix that as anyone else:

1) try working for change peacefully within the system; or
2) pick up a rifle, and hope for the best.

And I can't really say that I recommend #2 as a course of action. Some of my ancestors once decided they didn't like the status quo. They told the federal government to "piss off" and formed their own government. You might have heard of it. It was called the Confederate States of America. Well, the government they told to "piss off" did not take very kindly to that, and this led directly to such unpleasant things as Atlanta being burned to the ground and hundreds of thousands of people being killed.

For all its faults, I still think America is the greatest country in the world, and I wouldn't want to live anywhere else. But that's just me; your mileage may vary.
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Old 04-04-2008, 01:12 PM
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Dorkenbutt, what you have are not bona fide legal questions. Your questions have been asked and answered. Now you come up with another set that you expect me to answer. That's one slippery slope I am not going to start down, because your issues are not really legal, they are political.

You don't like the way the government is currently set up in this country. Well, join the club. But you have the same options about how to fix that as anyone else:

1) try working for change peacefully within the system; or
2) pick up a rifle, and hope for the best.

And I can't really say that I recommend #2 as a course of action. Some of my ancestors once decided they didn't like the status quo. They told the federal government to "piss off" and formed their own government. You might have heard of it. It was called the Confederate States of America. Well, the government they told to "piss off" did not take very kindly to that, and this led directly to such unpleasant things as Atlanta being burned to the ground and hundreds of thousands of people being killed.

For all its faults, I still think America is the greatest country in the world, and I wouldn't want to live anywhere else. But that's just me; your mileage may vary.

Did I say anything about not liking government? The government is not the problem. The problem is the man behind the curtain, is that not true? You make a lot of assumptions and presumptions, don't you. You also like to play word games.

Do the questions make you uncomfortable? Is it because you cannot answer them truthfully? What has politics got to do with the questions? Do you ever give non evasive answers or do you always obfuscate?

I also happen to think the land known as America is the greatest place to take up housekeeping. Does that mean that People in government are not corrupt? Notice I said people and not government.
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Old 04-04-2008, 03:25 PM
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Notice what happens when you stay on point? People like lawpuppy do not know how to handle it. Ask them the right questions and they run claiming it is all political. I guess that is an easy way to deal with uncomfortable questions. Also notice how lawpuppy tries change the meaning of the questions. He also assumed and presumed things not said and tried to take the issues of topic. It is very easy to show them for what they are when you stay on point and do not make statements, but ask questions instead. Lawpuppy gave supposed answers that had nothing to do with the questions asked and then claims to have answered them. LOL!!!! Oh well, so much for lawpuppy. I didn't expect any different.
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Old 04-04-2008, 03:49 PM
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chuckle

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Notice what happens when you stay on point? People like lawpuppy do not know how to handle it. Ask them the right questions and they run claiming it is all political. I guess that is an easy way to deal with uncomfortable questions. Also notice how lawpuppy tries change the meaning of the questions. He also assumed and presumed things not said and tried to take the issues of topic. It is very easy to show them for what they are when you stay on point and do not make statements, but ask questions instead. Lawpuppy gave supposed answers that had nothing to do with the questions asked and then claims to have answered them. LOL!!!! Oh well, so much for lawpuppy. I didn't expect any different.

That's because you're a drooler.

I get a good chuckle out of folks like you. Never attended a single day of law school, never argued a case in court, but want to tell me how the law "really" works. LOL
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Old 04-04-2008, 04:09 PM
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That's because you're a drooler.

I get a good chuckle out of folks like you. Never attended a single day of law school, never argued a case in court, but want to tell me how the law "really" works. LOL

I'm still waiting for you to tell the whole group what "The Law" is, by definition of your own rendering (NOT out of a dictionary or quotations from some scholar). It appears that you, not knowing what 'The Law' or 'just plain law' is, puts you in a worse condition than the rest of those that you desire to sneer upon.

Aside from that, I successfully attended oral argument (without Attorney assistance) and made a laughing stock of the Assistant Attorney General for the state of Florida. Oh! BTW, that was in front of three federal judges. 14 state employees are no-longer employees of the state... Hmmmm.


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Old 04-04-2008, 04:53 PM
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I'm still waiting for you to tell the whole group what "The Law" is, by definition of your own rendering (NOT out of a dictionary or quotations from some scholar). It appears that you, not knowing what 'The Law' or 'just plain law' is, puts you in a worse condition than the rest of those that you desire to sneer upon.

Aside from that, I successfully attended oral argument (without Attorney assistance) and made a laughing stock of the Assistant Attorney General for the state of Florida. Oh! BTW, that was in front of three federal judges. 14 state employees are no-longer employees of the state... Hmmmm.


Jerry Carlos

Case citation?? Or are we just supposed to take you on your word of honor?
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Old 04-04-2008, 05:01 PM
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Case citation?? Or are we just supposed to take you on your word of honor?

Ask the forum. There are a couple on this forum who have already performed this search and have found that I am speaking the truth. Maybe they will be delighted in giving you the information. On the other hand, you know the name in which the Federal Courts recognize this persona, therefore, do your own research and find out for yourself. I will give you a hint... Florida. Another hint. Contact Steven Kahn, former Senate General Counsel for the state of Florida, and request information concerning the case.

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Old 04-04-2008, 05:44 PM
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That's because you're a drooler.

I get a good chuckle out of folks like you. Never attended a single day of law school, never argued a case in court, but want to tell me how the law "really" works. LOL

You're just full of assumptions and presumptions, aren't you? Can't or won't answer question put before you, but you will make assumptions all day long. Now that's funny. ROFLMAO!! But what can you expect from lawpuppy?
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Old 04-04-2008, 06:09 PM
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So what do you folks expect??

Attorn: To turn or transfer homage and service from one Lord to another; to render homage and service to a Lord.” Webster’s New International Dictionary 1943

Attorney: to transfer. to turn. One who is appointed or admitted in the place of another to transact any business for him.” Webster’s Consolidated Dictionary 1962.

That's all Folks. Yep.

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