Chartering A NEW Birth Certificate

[drunkfux]

Hi all, I am new to law study and trying to understand our legal system further. I am trying to find out if it is possible to replace a current birth record with a new record. Essentially, wiping out my previous one and establishing a new one.

Here is links to Florida Statutes:

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/...382/ch0382.htm

(4) SUBSTITUTION OF NEW CERTIFICATE OF BIRTH FOR ORIGINAL.--When a new certificate of birth is prepared, the department shall substitute the new certificate of birth for the original certificate on file. All copies of the original certificate of live birth in the custody of a local registrar or other state custodian of vital records shall be forwarded to the State Registrar. Thereafter, when a certified copy of the certificate of birth or portion thereof is issued, it shall be a copy of the new certificate of birth or portion thereof, except when a court order requires issuance of a certified copy of the original certificate of birth. In an adoption, change in paternity, affirmation of parental status, undetermined parentage, or court-ordered substitution, the department shall place the original certificate of birth and all papers pertaining thereto under seal, not to be broken except by order of a court of competent jurisdiction or as otherwise provided by law.

I simply don't understand it.

[Notorial dissent]

Originally Posted by drunkfux

In an adoption, change in paternity, affirmation of parental status, undetermined parentage, or court-ordered substitution, the department shall place the original certificate of birth and all papers pertaining thereto under seal, not to be broken except by order of a court of competent jurisdiction or as otherwise provided by law.

The only way you are going to get a change to the original birth record is by providing sufficient proof to a judge in a court action. The above examples are probably the main, and mostly likely only reasons that you could get a change, and then it would be limited to the information that was incorrect. You might be able to get spelling errors or omissions corrected by going to the state vital stat office with sufficient proof, but that is as far as they will go that way without a court order.

[gldskr]

Originally Posted by drunkfux

Hi all, I am new to law study and trying to understand our legal system further. I am trying to find out if it is possible to replace a current birth record with a new record. Essentially, wiping out my previous one and establishing a new one.

First, you must distinguish between a record (certificate) of live birth, usually issued by a hospital, which is the record of an event; and a Certificate of Birth, an insurance policy issued by the agency to underwrite the record, used for purposes specific to the agency.

Since it would be almost impossible to alter the former case, the question arises, why would you want or need to alter the facts in the latter case other than those spelled out in the statute?

If you have an end in mind please explain, otherwise it would appear that you are pissing in the wind. A Certificate of Birth is yours to use if you choose to. Why do you need one? The fact that you are posting here proves your existence; what you call yourself is strictly your business.

gldskr

[I am Siren]

You should probably investigate doing the Family Bible Genealogy in order to prove you are who you say you are... Not the LEGAL FICTION.

[David Merrill]

Bingo! Publish it in your local positive law jural society - the county clerk and recorder or Register of Deeds.

[RevokeTheTrust]

Welcome "drunkfux"

Originally Posted by drunkfux

Hi all, I am new to law study and trying to understand our legal system further. I am trying to find out if it is possible to replace a current birth record with a new record. Essentially, wiping out my previous one and establishing a new one.

Here is links to Florida Statutes:

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/...382/ch0382.htm

(4) SUBSTITUTION OF NEW CERTIFICATE OF BIRTH FOR ORIGINAL.--When a new certificate of birth is prepared, the department shall substitute the new certificate of birth for the original certificate on file. All copies of the original certificate of live birth in the custody of a local registrar or other state custodian of vital records shall be forwarded to the State Registrar. Thereafter, when a certified copy of the certificate of birth or portion thereof is issued, it shall be a copy of the new certificate of birth or portion thereof, except when a court order requires issuance of a certified copy of the original certificate of birth. In an adoption, change in paternity, affirmation of parental status, undetermined parentage, or court-ordered substitution, the department shall place the original certificate of birth and all papers pertaining thereto under seal, not to be broken except by order of a court of competent jurisdiction or as otherwise provided by law.

I simply don't understand it.

First of all, you being new to study law, perhaps you were already versed into law and are just having some difficulty to prove it?

That State of Florida has concern only to those births cerified to human conception; well, I suppose none of us would be gentlemen if we entertained to admit a disclosure of conception being without the closure in almighty God; as would adults of an adulterous generation to become suited to act for the state a rehearsal of human events as Onan, "Shoonra", "Lawdog", "Notorial Dissent", et al may have spawned together for a fee. Yet, it is just that: statute from that State of Florida, as well as others, admit only a commercial event is within its view and protections of limited liability. Supposedly that admits the profession of whomever is exercising from those statute, but that doesn't prove competence.

I recently bought a Colloidal Silver generator "kit" through a console of a distant market, and the same holder of those goods has to sell some gerbils whose births are certified. I asked from what country they were certified, and it was responded to some idea of Fiction. Well, knowing that fiction can't deliver a product into a true and existant place but by bracketting the product somewhere near for it to fall onto that true and existant place as it were to be abandoned and then Found, may you discuss from what fiction you would like your host to berth its Vessel to another fiction? Landmarks usually help draw the fiction relative to an actual place as are stationed near a post office. How large of a birth is to take place?

without prejudice,
m. Gregory Thomas(tm).

[farmer_giles_of_ham]

Sounds like the "Paper Trip". Looks like for a number of reasons the Dept will issue a different birth certificate to replace the old. Or, you could just start over and leave the other dormant. Contact the agency and follow the rules they give you to establish the new certificate.

But any paper records can always be founded on more paper records. Meaning, passport, ss# DL etc can all be obtained by following the rules and starting from scratch. No BC needed for passport or DL, for example- affidavits will do.

Make sure you always tell the truth because thats required.

If all the names are changed the link is broken. New father name, new mother name new child name same birthdates and places. Names come free.

But once we are scanned biometrically this all is finished. By dropping all past associations at least the bioscan starts fresh.