Where did our Constitution go ??? and why don't the Courts follow it ??

[GenXPatriot]

netwrkranger, have you happened to have read Revolution 1776, by John Hyde Preston?

[netwrkranger]

Secret Proceedings and Debates of the Constitutional Convention, 1787
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/141...?/lewrockwell/

Roasting Sacred Cows -Constitution
http://www.brainwashington.info/conf...20Williams.pdf

The Anti-Federalist Papers
http://www.iahushua.com/hist/AntiFED.html

Interpretive Force of the Constitution's Secret Drafting History
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...08/ai_n9241568


I know I got more stuff, but unable to locate it at this time. I'll add to this post upon discovering it.

I have never read the book, but I am more than happy to check it out.

[GenXPatriot]

Cool. Thanks

[netwrkranger]

... more on the secret dealings of the Constitution as well as the history of the dissenters in regards to the Constitution:

Conspiracy and the Making of the Constitution
http://www.americanrevolution.org/grassman.html

The Founding Fathers' Fraud
http://www.swans.com/library/art13/pgreen114.html

Founding Fathers' Formula Fulfilled
http://www.swans.com/library/art9/pgreen26.html

The Antifederalists: The Other Founders of the Constitutional Tradition?
http://www.historynow.org/09_2007/historian6.html

Ordinary Americans and the Constitution
http://www.historynow.org/09_2007/historian4.html

Bill of Rights Protect Property, Not People
http://www.giantleap.org/envision/bill.htm

I hadn't heard of the Antifederalists until taking a class on American government in college.....absolutely no mention of them in grade and high school.....

[GenXPatriot]

Same here.

Do you know who I should talk to, or where to look online about becoming a state national?

[netwrkranger]

That is a long road in my opinion. You can obtain much of the information from that website I gave you.

That is only a small part though. You'll need to study law, court procedures, history, and a myriad of other subjects. You need to rectify administrative records and change how you live your life and conduct your business.

A long road indeed. Many of the people who have put research into these subjects on their own have done this for decades even.

You are undoing all the contracts and licenses you signed that makes you a ward of the State to becoming a freeman on the land and sui juris.

[GenXPatriot]

Originally Posted by netwrkranger

That is a long road in my opinion. You can obtain much of the information from that website I gave you.

That is only a small part though. You'll need to study law, court procedures, history, and a myriad of other subjects. You need to rectify administrative records and change how you live your life and conduct your business.

A long road indeed. Many of the people who have put research into these subjects on their own have done this for decades even.

You are undoing all the contracts and licenses you signed that makes you a ward of the State to becoming a freeman on the land and sui juris.

Sounds like alot of work indeed, but worth it. Its tough, I often wish there was more I could do to change things for the better for my family and others.

[netwrkranger]

That's another thing too. More than just a few individuals who are into this are single people (or divorced). It is really tough if you have spouses and children to account for and do this.

I'm sure there are individuals out there who have done with their spouse and families. The only guy I can think of off the top of my head is George Gordon.

George Gordon is awesome. Do check out the George Gordon's School of Law, particularly his radio archives.

[GenXPatriot]

I will check him out. I wish I had gotten started in this sooner. Now I have 2 girls ages 1 an 3, and not alot of time on my hands. My wife and I plan to homeschool them, so hopefully they will have a good head start into the "real world".

[jetgraphics]

Known items that change one's relation with constitutional government:
[1] pauperization
[2] citizenship
[3] usury
[4] socialism

[1] Art IV of Confederation, 1777, excludes paupers from the "privileges and immunities" of the free citizens.
Pre 1935 court cites and laws are very harsh when dealing with paupers.

[2] Though the Declaration of Independence, 1776. defines job #1 as securing rights to life, liberty and private property, one must question where government got the authority to conscript, which is certainly a denial of liberty, life and property. Answer: Job #2, governing those who consent. If you check out the definition for militia, it only includes CITIZENS. Same for Selective Service. Only CITIZENS are obligated to perform civic duties. And citizenship must be voluntary, lest it be involuntary servitude.

[3] Usury is an abomination, denounced by all major religions, and mathematically impossible to pay in a finite money token system. However, that didn't stop the U.S. Constitution from extending protection to usurers. (Usury is any interest, not "excessive interest".) Ezekiel 18:13 KJV defines usury as a capital offense.

[4] Socialism, by definition, replaces absolute ownership of private property, with qualified ownership of estate. In addition, a duly enrolled American socialist is eligible for entitlements (aka charity from the public treasury), which makes him a pauper. Furthermore, no instrumentality of the Federal Reserve will allow unnumbered Americans to "accidentally" engage in usury, by opening a personal interest bearing bank account. (Bless their hearts...)

So, the average American, who is misled to enroll himself as a citizen / resident, participate in national socialism, engage in the abomination of usury, and become eligible for entitlements (pauperization), has effectively put himself in a 'world of hurt', with respect to secular and sacred law.

(ouch! ouch! ouch!)

More details here:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NASP/message/487