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[RAGING_BULL]

I Have A Friend Who Tells Me That Once You Sign For A Loan That Means The Loan Is Already Paid And You Are Being Charged Twice Is There Any Truth To This And If So Can It Be Proven Because I Had Financed A Vehicle And It Was Sold At An Auction The Finance Company Said I Owe Them $11,000 Sent My Info To A Collection Agency And They Tacked On More Money Which Turns Out To Be $13,000 What Can Do I'm In The Process Of Getting My Ucc Together But I Would Really Like To Hear From You Guys Is What My Friend Saying True Or Should I Just Kiss My A$$ Goodbye

[Jerry Pitts]

Definitely do Not try to be a contortionist in such degree, it could be physically painful (or so I am told).

Answering one question only, there is available on this forum somewhere a document entitled 'affidavit of Walker Todd' or 'Walker Todd affidavit'. Mr Todd, speaks from much experience regarding the manner in which 'money' is created through your signature on a piece of paper. Read that, and you will be convinced of the accuracy of what your friend told you. If you have trouble finding it on this forum, just google the name "Walker Todd""affidavit".

As for the 'how to', I will defer to other members on the forum to give you an opinion on that matter. Here in Florida, it is a felony crime to give legal advice while not holding a BAR certification; and the internet is monitored.

Jerry

Originally Posted by RAGING_BULL

I Have A Friend Who Tells Me That Once You Sign For A Loan That Means The Loan Is Already Paid And You Are Being Charged Twice Is There Any Truth To This And If So Can It Be Proven Because I Had Financed A Vehicle And It Was Sold At An Auction The Finance Company Said I Owe Them $11,000 Sent My Info To A Collection Agency And They Tacked On More Money Which Turns Out To Be $13,000 What Can Do I'm In The Process Of Getting My Ucc Together But I Would Really Like To Hear From You Guys Is What My Friend Saying True Or Should I Just Kiss My A$$ Goodbye

[Lawdog]

Originally Posted by RAGING_BULL

I Have A Friend Who Tells Me That Once You Sign For A Loan That Means The Loan Is Already Paid And You Are Being Charged Twice Is There Any Truth To This And If So Can It Be Proven Because I Had Financed A Vehicle And It Was Sold At An Auction The Finance Company Said I Owe Them $11,000 Sent My Info To A Collection Agency And They Tacked On More Money Which Turns Out To Be $13,000 What Can Do I'm In The Process Of Getting My Ucc Together But I Would Really Like To Hear From You Guys Is What My Friend Saying True Or Should I Just Kiss My A$$ Goodbye

Did your friend mention anything about punctuation, or that not all words in the English language are capitalized?

[spartan]

Originally Posted by Lawdog

Did your friend mention anything about punctuation, or that not all words in the English language are capitalized?

You are funny Lawdog but the man needs help.

Once it is given, jokes look funny indeed.

When one is under stress not only caps are locked.


I once run into the bathroom in Court and only later realized that was in female part.

My mind was somewhere else, while my ass was in about the right place.

What can I tell you?

**** happens.

[spartan]

Hope this helps.


Your answer may be here but I would reprint all.


Defense 11: Collateral Was Not Sold at a Commercially Reasonable Price
This is a special defense that applies in auto loan cases. When you default on an auto loan, the bank will usually repossess the car and sell it -- often for far less than the value of the car. When the proceeds of the sale do not cover the entire auto loan, the bank may sue you for the remainder (called the "deficiency"). However, the bank cannot pursue you for a deficiency unless it obtains a fair price for the car (a fair price is known as a "commercially reasonable price"). The burden of proof is on the bank to establish that it sold the car at a commercially reasonable price. Because a bank rarely, if ever, obtains a commercially reasonable price for the car, this is a very strong defense that should be raised in every auto deficiency case.

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Originally Posted by RAGING_BULL

I Have A Friend Who Tells Me That Once You Sign For A Loan That Means The Loan Is Already Paid And You Are Being Charged Twice Is There Any Truth To This And If So Can It Be Proven Because I Had Financed A Vehicle And It Was Sold At An Auction The Finance Company Said I Owe Them $11,000 Sent My Info To A Collection Agency And They Tacked On More Money Which Turns Out To Be $13,000 What Can Do I'm In The Process Of Getting My Ucc Together But I Would Really Like To Hear From You Guys Is What My Friend Saying True Or Should I Just Kiss My A$$ Goodbye

http://www.nedap.org/hotline/defenses.html

Common Defenses to Creditor Lawsuits

This guide provides general information for New Yorkers who are facing debt collection lawsuits in the New York City civil courts. It does not apply to courts outside the state of New York. It is not a substitute for obtaining legal advice in your individual case.
What is a defense?
Generally, a defense is a reason why the plaintiff should not win its case. In a debt collection lawsuit, a defense is a reason why (1) the plaintiff failed to prove its case or (2) you do not owe the money. If one of your defenses is successful, the plaintiff will lose and you will win.
What is NOT a defense?
The reason that you fell behind on your bills.
The reason that you cannot pay the debt today.
The fact that the creditor or debt collector refused to make reasonable payment arrangements in the past.
A statement that you want to settle the case or make a payment agreement.
Do most defendants have defenses to creditor lawsuits?
Yes. One or more of the common defenses discussed below probably applies to your case. Each of the defenses discussed below -- if it applies to your case -- is a reason why the plaintiff should lose and you should win. If you have questions about whether a particular defense might apply to your case, call the NYC Financial Justice Hotline at 212-925-4929.
What is the best way to present your defenses to the court?
To alert the court to your defenses, you should list them briefly in your answer. You can download the answer form online, get it at the civil court clerk's office, or call the NYC Financial Justice Hotline at 212-925-4929 for assistance preparing your own Pro Se Answer.
Defense 1: Improper Service (no personal jurisdiction)
The defense of improper service applies if (1) you never received the summons and complaint at all; or (2) you received the summons and complaint, but the manner of service was not correct.
Under New York law, a process server must try to make personal service or substitute service. Personal service occurs when the process server delivers the summons and complaint to you in person. Substitute service occurs when the process server leaves one copy of the summons at your home (or place of business) with a roommate, relative, or other responsible party (known as a "person of suitable age and discretion") AND mails a second copy of the summons to you at your last known address (or place of business).
If a process server makes three unsuccessful attempts at personal or substitute service service, he or she is allowed to use conspicuous service (otherwise known as nail-and-mail). Conspicuous service means slipping one copy of the summons under your door or attaching it to the door AND mailing a second copy of the summons to you at your last known address.
Here are some common examples of incorrect service:
Leaving the summons with your neighbor, who lives in a different apartment.
Sending the summons to an old address where you no longer live.
Throwing the summons on the floor in the lobby of your apartment building.
Sending the summons to you by mail only.
If you want to get a case dismissed for improper service, there are a few things you have to do:
You MUST RAISE the defense in your answer the first time you appear in court.
You need to GET A COPY of the "affidavit of service" from your file in the courthouse. The affidavit of service is a sworn statement by the process server that describes how you were served. The plaintiff will rely on this document to claim you were served correctly.
You MUST ASK the court to dismiss the case for lack of jurisdiction within 60 days of filing your answer. Sometimes this means that you will have to file special papers, called a "motion to dismiss," before your first court date is scheduled.
You MUST SCHEDULE AND ATTEND a special hearing called a "traverse hearing." At the traverse hearing, the judge will hear from both sides to determine whether you were properly served. If the judge decides that you were improperly served, he or she will dismiss the case.
You also need to GATHER EVIDENCE to present at your traverse hearing. This evidence could include witnesses or documents that support your claim of improper service.
If your case is dismissed for improper service, the plaintiff can sue you again. You have to decide, based on the facts of your case and the strength of your other defenses, whether it is worth it to go through with a traverse hearing.

Know Your Rights!
The plaintiff's attorney and court personnel will often try to discourage you from pursuing a defense of improper service. They will tell you that the defense will not help you because the plaintiff will only sue you again. But improper service is sometimes your best defense. If so, do not be afraid to insist on your right to a traverse hearing! Remember that the court has no power to issue a judgment against you if you were not served according to law.


Know Your Rights!
Sometimes process servers lie when completing the affidavit of service. For example, a process server may falsely claim to have left the summons with someone at your home. You can detect this false statement by looking at the physical description of the person the process server claims to have met at your home. Does it sound like someone you know? You can file a complaint against a lying process server with the NYC Department of Consumer Affairs.

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Defense 2: Identity Theft or Mistaken Identity
These defenses apply when you believe that the debt for which you are being sued is not your debt. Identity theft occurs when somebody steals your name and personal information and opens up credit accounts in your name. Mistaken identity occurs when you have been confused with somebody else who has a similar name or other identifying information. Remember that the burden of proof is on the plaintiff to establish that you made or authorized each and every charge. You do not have to prove that the debt is not yours. NEVER agree to a settlement if you are a victim of identity theft or mistaken identity.
Defense 3: Statute of Limitations
A statute of limitations is a time limit that a creditor has to file a lawsuit against you. It runs from approximately the last time you made a payment. In New York, the statute of limitations on a credit card debt is six years, and the statute of limitations on an auto loan or store card (like a Sears card) is four years. If it has been more than six years since you paid your credit card debt (or more than four years since you made a car payment), the statute of limitations on that debt has expired. The statute of limitations is an absolute defense -- the court must dismiss a case if the debt is past the statute of limitations. Any payment, no matter how small, can reset the statute of limitations. To be safe, NEVER make a payment if you want to assert the statute of limitations as a defense.
Defense 4: You Were Only an Authorized User
This defense may apply if you are being sued for a card that you shared with someone else. The defense hinges on the difference between a cosigner and an authorized user. If another person gave you permission to use his or her card, and you never agreed to be responsible for paying for that card, you were an authorized user. As an authorized user, you cannot be held responsible for that credit card debt. However, if you signed a credit card agreement in which you agreed to be jointly responsible with someone else for a credit card, you are a cosigner, and this defense does not apply to you. As a cosigner, you can be held responsible for the debt, even if none of the charges were yours.
Defense 5: Payment
If you have paid all or a part of the debt, and you believe you have not been credited for the payment, you can raise the defense of payment.
Defense 6: Dispute the Amount of the Debt
If you believe that the amount of the debt is incorrect, you have the right to dispute it. Remember that the plaintiff has the burden to prove that you owe the amount for which you have been sued. The plaintiff must prove that the principal, interest, collection costs, and attorneys fees are all correct, agreed to in your contract, and lawfully charged. You always have the right to insist that the plaintiff come up with your original contract, account statements, and even purchase receipts, to prove the amount of the debt.
Defense 7: No Business Relationship with the Plaintiff (lack of standing)
This is a defense that applies when the plaintiff is a debt buyer, not your original creditor. Because you never signed a contract directly with the debt buyer, you have the right to challenge the debt buyer's right to sue you (also known as "standing"). The plaintiff will not be able to prevail unless it can prove to the court that it owns your debt. To do this, the debt buyer will have to produce a contract of sale (also known as an "assignment") that mentions your debt specifically. If the debt buyer bought your debt from another debt buyer, it has to provide a chain of assignments going all the way back to the original creditor. If the debt buyer cannot or will not provide these documents, the court must dismiss the case.
Defense 8: The Plaintiff Is Not A Licensed Debt Collector
This is a defense that applies when the plaintiff is a debt buyer, not your original creditor. All debt collectors working in New York City must have a license from the NYC Department of Consumer Affairs. At the DCA website, you can perform an instant license check, to see whether the debt buyer plaintiff in your case is licensed. If not, the court should dismiss the case.
Defense 9: The Complaint Does Not Contain A License Number
This is a defense that applies when the plaintiff is a debt buyer, not your original creditor. This defense is very similar to Defense 8 above. Every licensed debt collector is required to write its license number in the complaint. If the debt buyer fails to write the license number in the complaint, the complaint should be dismissed. However, the court may allow the debt buyer to amend the complaint to include a license number.
Defense 10: Bankruptcy
If you previously declared bankruptcy, and the debt for which you are being sued was discharged as part of that bankruptcy proceeding, you do not owe it anymore. Bankruptcy is an absolute defense to a debt collection lawsuit.

Defense 11: Collateral Was Not Sold at a Commercially Reasonable Price
This is a special defense that applies in auto loan cases. When you default on an auto loan, the bank will usually repossess the car and sell it -- often for far less than the value of the car. When the proceeds of the sale do not cover the entire auto loan, the bank may sue you for the remainder (called the "deficiency"). However, the bank cannot pursue you for a deficiency unless it obtains a fair price for the car (a fair price is known as a "commercially reasonable price"). The burden of proof is on the bank to establish that it sold the car at a commercially reasonable price. Because a bank rarely, if ever, obtains a commercially reasonable price for the car, this is a very strong defense that should be raised in every auto deficiency case.

More Information


How to Read a Civil Court Summons (PDF)
The Basics of Defending Creditor Lawsuits
Vacating a Default Judgment
Frozen Bank Accounts
What is Exempt from Debt Collection?

Helpful Links and Resources
LawHelp/NY: attorney referrals and information for pro se litigants
New York City Civil Court: information about representing yourself in court, including contact information and court forms
The Legal Aid Society, When The Creditor Sues, What Are My Rights? (PDF)

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Note; Emphasis added to this affidavit with Yellow Highlighting!

STATE OF MICHIGAN

IN THE CIRCUIT COURT FOR THE COUNTY OF OAKLAND


)
BANK ONE, N.A., ) Case No. 03-047448-CZ
)
Plaintiff, ) Hon. E.. Sosnick
)
v. ) AFFIDAVIT OF WALKER F. TODD,
) EXPERT WITNESS FOR DEFENDANTS
HARSHAVARDHAN DAVE and )
PRATIMA DAVE, jointly and severally, )
)
Defendants. )
__________________________________________________ ______________________

Harshavardhan Dave and Pratima H. Dave Michael C. Hammer (P41705)
C/o 5128 Echo Road Ryan O. Lawlor (P64693)
Bloomfield Hills, MI 48302 ****inson Wright PLLC
Defendants, in propria persona Attorneys for Bank One, N.A.
500 Woodward Avenue, Suite 4000
Detroit, Michigan 48226
(313) 223-3500

Now comes the Affiant, Walker F. Todd, a citizen of the United States and the State of

Ohio over the age of 21 years, and declares as follows, under penalty of perjury:

1. That I am familiar with the Promissory Note and Disbursement Request and Authorization, dated November 23, 1999, together sometimes referred to in other documents filed by Defendants in this case as the “alleged agreement” between Defendants and Plaintiff but called the “Note” in this Affidavit. If called as a witness, I would testify as stated herein. I make this Affidavit based on my own personal knowledge of the legal, economic, and historical principles stated herein, except that I have relied entirely on documents provided to me, including the Note, regarding certain facts at issue in this case of which I previously had no direct and personal knowledge. I am making this affidavit based on my experience and expertise as an attorney, economist, research writer, and teacher. I am competent to make the following statements.
PROFESSIONAL BACKGROUND QUALIFICATIONS
2. My qualifications as an expert witness in monetary and banking instruments are as follows. For 20 years, I worked as an attorney and legal officer for the legal departments of the Federal Reserve Banks of New York and Cleveland. Among other things, I was assigned responsibility for questions involving both novel and routine notes, bonds, bankers’ acceptances, securities, and other financial instruments in connection with my work for the Reserve Banks’ discount windows and parts of the open market trading desk function in New York. In addition, for nine years, I worked as an economic research officer at the Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland. I became one of the Federal Reserve System’s recognized experts on the legal history of central banking and the pledging of notes, bonds, and other financial instruments at the discount window to enable the Federal Reserve to make advances of credit that became or could become money. I also have read extensively treatises on the legal and financial history of money and banking and have published several articles covering all of the subjects just mentioned. I have served as an expert witness in several trials involving banking practices and monetary instruments. A summary biographical sketch and resume including further details of my work experience, readings, publications, and education will be tendered to Defendants and may be made available to the Court and to Plaintiff’s counsel upon request.
GENERALLY ACCEPTED ACCOUNTING PRINCIPLES
3. Banks are required to adhere to Generally Accepted Accounting Principles (GAAP). GAAP follows an accounting convention that lies at the heart of the double-entry bookkeeping system called the Matching Principle. This principle works as follows: When a bank accepts bullion, coin, currency, checks, drafts, promissory notes, or any other similar instruments (hereinafter “instruments”) from customers and deposits or records the instruments as assets, it must record offsetting liabilities that match the assets that it accepted from customers. The liabilities represent the amounts that the bank owes the customers, funds accepted from customers. In a fractional reserve banking system like the United States banking system, most of the funds advanced to borrowers (assets of the banks) are created by the banks themselves and are not merely transferred from one set of depositors to another set of borrowers.
RELEVANCE OF SUBTLE DISTINCTIONS ABOUT TYPES OF MONEY
4. From my study of historical and economic writings on the subject, I conclude that a common misconception about the nature of money unfortunately has been perpetuated in the U.S. monetary and banking systems, especially since the 1930s. In classical economic theory, once economic exchange has moved beyond the barter stage, there are two types of money: money of exchange and money of account.. For nearly 300 years in both Europe and the United States, confusion about the distinctiveness of these two concepts has led to persistent attempts to treat money of account as the equivalent of money of exchange. In reality, especially in a fractional reserve banking system, a comparatively small amount of money of exchange (e.g., gold, silver, and official currency notes) may support a vastly larger quantity of business transactions denominated in money of account. The sum of these transactions is the sum of credit extensions in the economy. With the exception of customary stores of value like gold and silver, the monetary base of the economy largely consists of credit instruments. Against this background, I conclude that the Note, despite some language about “lawful money” explained below, clearly contemplates both disbursement of funds and eventual repayment or settlement in money of account (that is, money of exchange would be welcome but is not required to repay or settle the Note). The factual basis of this conclusion is the reference in the Disbursement Request and Authorization to repayment of $95,905.16 to Michigan National Bank from the proceeds of the Note. That was an exchange of the credit of Bank One (Plaintiff) for credit apparently and previously extended to Defendants by Michigan National Bank. Also, there is no reason to believe that Plaintiff would refuse a substitution of the credit of another bank or banker as complete payment of the Defendants’ repayment obligation under the Note. This is a case about exchanges of money of account (credit), not about exchanges of money of exchange (lawful money or even legal tender).
5. Ironically, the Note explicitly refers to repayment in “lawful money of the United States of America” (see “Promise to Pay” clause). Traditionally and legally, Congress defines the phrase “lawful money” for the United States. Lawful money was the form of money of exchange that the federal government (or any state) could be required by statute to receive in payment of taxes or other debts. Traditionally, as defined by Congress, lawful money only included gold, silver, and currency notes redeemable for gold or silver on demand. In a banking law context, lawful money was only those forms of money of exchange (the forms just mentioned, plus U.S. bonds and notes redeemable for gold) that constituted the reserves of a national bank prior to 1913 (date of creation of the Federal Reserve Banks). See, Lawful Money, Webster’s New International Dictionary (2d ed. 1950). In light of these facts, I conclude that Plaintiff and Defendants exchanged reciprocal credits involving money of account and not money of exchange; no lawful money was or probably ever would be disbursed by either side in the covered transactions. This conclusion also is consistent with the bookkeeping entries that underlie the loan account in dispute in the present case. Moreover, it is puzzling why Plaintiff would retain the archaic language, “lawful money of the United States of America,” in its otherwise modern-seeming Note. It is possible that this language is merely a legacy from the pre-1933 era. Modern credit agreements might include repayment language such as, “The repayment obligation under this agreement shall continue until payment is received in fully and finally collected funds,” which avoids the entire question of “In what form of money or credit is the repayment obligation due?”
6. Legal tender, a related concept but one that is economically inferior to lawful money because it allows payment in instruments that cannot be redeemed for gold or silver on demand, has been the form of money of exchange commonly used in the United States since 1933, when domestic private gold transactions were suspended (until 1974).. Basically, legal tender is whatever the government says that it is. The most common form of legal tender today is Federal Reserve notes, which by law cannot be redeemed for gold since 1934 or, since 1964, for silver. See, 31 U.S.C. Sections 5103, 5118 (b), and 5119 (a).

Note: I question the statement that fed reserve notes cannot be redeemed for silver since 1964. It was Johnson who declared on 15 Marcy 1967 that after 15 June 1967 that Fed Res Notes would not be exchanged for silver and the practice did stop on 15 June 1967 – not 1964. I believe this to be error in the text of the author’s affidavit.

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7. Legal tender under the Uniform Commercial Code (U.C.C.), Section 1-201 (24) (Official Comment), is a concept that sometimes surfaces in cases of this nature.. The referenced Official Comment notes that the definition of money is not limited to legal tender under the U.C.C. Money is defined in Section 1-201 (24) as “a medium of exchange authorized or adopted by a domestic or foreign government and includes a monetary unit of account established by an intergovernmental organization or by agreement between two or more nations.” The relevant Official Comment states that “The test adopted is that of sanction of government, whether by authorization before issue or adoption afterward, which recognizes the circulating medium as a part of the official currency of that government. The narrow view that money is limited to legal tender is rejected.” Thus, I conclude that the U.C.C. tends to validate the classical theoretical view of money.
HOW BANKS BEGAN TO LEND THEIR OWN CREDIT INSTEAD OF REAL MONEY

8. In my opinion, the best sources of information on the origins and use of credit as money are in Alfred Marshall, MONEY, CREDIT & COMMERCE 249-251 (1929) and Charles P. Kindleberger, A FINANCIAL HISTORY OF WESTERN EUROPE 50-53 (1984). A synthesis of these sources, as applied to the facts of the present case, is as follows: As commercial banks and discount houses (private bankers) became established in parts of Europe (especially Great Britain) and North America, by the mid-nineteenth century they commonly made loans to borrowers by extending their own credit to the borrowers or, at the borrowers’ direction, to third parties. The typical form of such extensions of credit was drafts or bills of exchange drawn upon themselves (claims on the credit of the drawees) instead of disbursements of bullion, coin, or other forms of money. In transactions with third parties, these drafts and bills came to serve most of the ordinary functions of money. The third parties had to determine for themselves whether such “credit money” had value and, if so, how much. The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 was drafted with this model of the commercial economy in mind and provided at least two mechanisms (the discount window and the open-market trading desk) by which certain types of bankers’ credits could be exchanged for Federal Reserve credits, which in turn could be withdrawn in lawful money. Credit at the Federal Reserve eventually became the principal form of monetary reserves of the commercial banking system, especially after the suspension of domestic transactions in gold in 1933. Thus, credit money is not alien to the current official monetary system; it is just rarely used as a device for the creation of Federal Reserve credit that, in turn, in the form of either Federal Reserve notes or banks’ deposits at Federal Reserve Banks, functions as money in the current monetary system. In fact, a means by which the Federal Reserve expands the money supply, loosely defined, is to set banks’ reserve requirements (currently, usually ten percent of demand liabilities) at levels that would encourage banks to extend new credit to borrowers on their own books that third parties would have to present to the same banks for redemption, thus leading to an expansion of bank-created credit money. In the modern economy, many non-bank providers of credit also extend book credit to their customers without previously setting aside an equivalent amount of monetary reserves (credit card line of credit access checks issued by non-banks are a good example of this type of credit), which also causes an expansion of the aggregate quantity of credit money. The discussion of money taken from Federal Reserve and other modern sources in paragraphs 11 et seq. is consistent with the account of the origins of the use of bank credit as money in this paragraph.
ADVANCES OF BANK CREDIT AS THE EQUIVALENT OF MONEY
9. Plaintiff apparently asserts that the Defendants signed a promise to pay, such as a note(s) or credit application (collectively, the “Note”), in exchange for the Plaintiff’s advance of funds, credit, or some type of money to or on behalf of Defendant. However, the bookkeeping entries required by application of GAAP and the Federal Reserve’s own writings should trigger close scrutiny of Plaintiff’s apparent assertions that it lent its funds, credit, or money to or on behalf of Defendants, thereby causing them to owe the Plaintiff $400,000. According to the bookkeeping entries shown or otherwise described to me and application of GAAP, the Defendants allegedly were to tender some form of money (“lawful money of the United States of America” is the type of money explicitly called for in the Note), securities or other capital equivalent to money, funds, credit, or something else of value in exchange (money of exchange, loosely defined), collectively referred to herein as “money,” to repay what the Plaintiff claims was the money lent to the Defendants. It is not an unreasonable argument to state that Plaintiff apparently changed the economic substance of the transaction from that contemplated in the credit application form, agreement, note(s), or other similar instrument(s) that the Defendants executed, thereby changing the costs and risks to the Defendants. At most, the Plaintiff extended its own credit (money of account), but the Defendants were required to repay in money (money of exchange, and lawful money at that), which creates at least the inference of inequality of obligations on the two sides of the transaction (money, including lawful money, is to be exchanged for bank credit).
MODERN AUTHORITIES ON MONEY

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11.To understand what occurred between Plaintiff and Defendants concerning the alleged loan of money or, more accurately, credit, it is helpful to review a modern Federal Reserve description of a bank’s lending process. See, David H. Friedman, MONEY AND BANKING (4th ed. 1984)(apparently already introduced into this case): “The commercial bank lending process is similar to that of a thrift in that the receipt of cash from depositors increases both its assets and its deposit liabilities, which enables it to make additional loans and investments. . . . When a commercial bank makes a business loan, it accepts as an asset the borrower’s debt obligation (the promise to repay) and creates a liability on its books in the form of a demand deposit in the amount of the loan.” (Consumer loans are funded similarly.) Therefore, the bank’s original bookkeeping entry should show an increase in the amount of the asset credited on the asset side of its books and a corresponding increase equal to the value of the asset on the liability side of its books. This would show that the bank received the customer’s signed promise to repay as an asset, thus monetizing the customer’s signature and creating on its books a liability in the form of a demand deposit or other demand liability of the bank. The bank then usually would hold this demand deposit in a transaction account on behalf of the customer. Instead of the bank lending its money or other assets to the customer, as the customer reasonably might believe from the face of the Note, the bank created funds for the customer’s transaction account without the customer’s permission, authorization, or knowledge and delivered the credit on its own books representing those funds to the customer, meanwhile alleging that the bank lent the customer money. If Plaintiff’s response to this line of argument is to the effect that it acknowledges that it lent credit or issued credit instead of money, one might refer to Thomas P. Fitch, BARRON’S BUSINESS GUIDE DICTIONARY OF BANKING TERMS, “Credit banking,” 3. “Bookkeeping entry representing a deposit of funds into an account.” But Plaintiff’s loan agreement apparently avoids claiming that the bank actually lent the Defendants money. They apparently state in the agreement that the Defendants are obligated to repay Plaintiff principal and interest for the “Valuable consideration (money) the bank gave the customer (borrower).” The loan agreement and Note apparently still delete any reference to the bank’s receipt of actual cash value from the Defendants and exchange of that receipt for actual cash value that the Plaintiff banker returned.
12.According to the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, money is anything that has value that banks and people accept as money; money does not have to be issued by the government. For example, David H. Friedman, I BET YOU THOUGHT. . . . 9, Federal Reserve Bank of New York (4th ed. 1984)(apparently already introduced into this case), explains that banks create new money by depositing IOUs, promissory notes, offset by bank liabilities called checking account balances. Page 5 says, “Money doesn’t have to be intrinsically valuable, be issued by government, or be in any special form. . . .”
13.The publication, Anne Marie L. Gonczy, MODERN MONEY MECHANICS 7-33, Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago (rev. ed. June 1992)(apparently already introduced into this case), contains standard bookkeeping entries demonstrating that money ordinarily is recorded as a bank asset, while a bank liability is evidence of money that a bank owes. The bookkeeping entries tend to prove that banks accept cash, checks, drafts, and promissory notes/credit agreements (assets) as money deposited to create credit or checkbook money that are bank liabilities, which shows that, absent any right of setoff, banks owe money to persons who deposit money.. Cash (money of exchange) is money, and credit or promissory notes (money of account) become money when banks deposit promissory notes with the intent of treating them like deposits of cash. See, 12 U.S.C. Section 1813 (l)(1) (definition of “deposit” under Federal Deposit Insurance Act). The Plaintiff acts in the capacity of a lending or banking institution, and the newly issued credit or money is similar or equivalent to a promissory note, which may be treated as a deposit of money when received by the lending bank.. Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas publication MONEY AND BANKING, page 11, explains that when banks grant loans, they create new money. The new money is created because a new “loan becomes a deposit, just like a paycheck does.” MODERN MONEY MECHANICS, page 6, says, “What they [banks] do when they make loans is to accept promissory notes in exchange for credits to the borrowers’ transaction accounts.” The next sentence on the same page explains that the banks’ assets and liabilities increase by the amount of the loans.
COMMENTARY AND SUMMARY OF ARGUMENT
14. Plaintiff apparently accepted the Defendants’ Note and credit application (money of account) in exchange for its own credit (also money of account) and deposited that credit into an account with the Defendants’ names on the account, as well as apparently issuing its own credit for $95,905.16 to Michigan National Bank for the account of the Defendants. One reasonably might argue that the Plaintiff recorded the Note or credit application as a loan (money of account) from the Defendants to the Plaintiff and that the Plaintiff then became the borrower of an equivalent amount of money of account from the Defendants.
15. The Plaintiff in fact never lent any of its own pre-existing money, credit, or assets as consideration to purchase the Note or credit agreement from the Defendants. (Robertson Notes: I add that when the bank does the forgoing, then in that event, there is an utter failure of consideration for the “loan contract”.) When the Plaintiff deposited the Defendants’ $400,000 of newly issued credit into an account, the Plaintiff created from $360,000 to $400,000 of new money (the nominal principal amount less up to ten percent or $40,000 of reserves that the Federal Reserve would require against a demand deposit of this size). The Plaintiff received $400,000 of credit or money of account from the Defendants as an asset. GAAP ordinarily would require that the Plaintiff record a liability account, crediting the Defendants’ deposit account, showing that the Plaintiff owes $400,000 of money to the Defendants, just as if the Defendants were to deposit cash or a payroll check into their account.
16. The following appears to be a disputed fact in this case about which I have insufficient information on which to form a conclusion: I infer that it is alleged that Plaintiff refused to lend the Defendants Plaintiff’s own money or assets and recorded a $400,000 loan from the Defendants to the Plaintiff, which arguably was a $400,000 deposit of money of account by the Defendants, and then when the Plaintiff repaid the Defendants by paying its own credit (money of account) in the amount of $400,000 to third-party sellers of goods and services for the account of Defendants, the Defendants were repaid their loan to Plaintiff, and the transaction was complete.
17. I do not have sufficient knowledge of the facts in this case to form a conclusion on the following disputed points: None of the following material facts are disclosed in the credit application or Note or were advertised by Plaintiff to prove that the Defendants are the true lenders and the Plaintiff is the true borrower. The Plaintiff is trying to use the credit application form or the Note to persuade and deceive the Defendants into believing that the opposite occurred and that the Defendants were the borrower and not the lender. The following point is undisputed: The Defendants’ loan of their credit to Plaintiff, when issued and paid from their deposit or credit account at Plaintiff, became money in the Federal Reserve System (subject to a reduction of up to ten percent for reserve requirements) as the newly issued credit was paid pursuant to written orders, including checks and wire transfers, to sellers of goods and services for the account of Defendants.
CONCLUSION
18. Based on the foregoing, Plaintiff is using the Defendant’s Note for its own purposes, and it remains to be proven whether Plaintiff has incurred any financial loss or actual damages (I do not have sufficient information to form a conclusion on this point). In any case, the inclusion of the “lawful money” language in the repayment clause of the Note is confusing at best and in fact may be misleading in the context described above.
AFFIRMATION
19. I hereby affirm that I prepared and have read this Affidavit and that I believe the foregoing statements in this Affidavit to be true. I hereby further affirm that the basis of these beliefs is either my own direct knowledge of the legal principles and historical facts involved and with respect to which I hold myself out as an expert or statements made or documents provided to me by third parties whose veracity I reasonably assumed.
Further the Affiant sayeth naught.
At Chagrin Falls, Ohio
December 5, 2003 _____________________________________
WALKER F. TODD (Ohio bar no. 0064539)
Expert witness for the Defendants
above-named Affiant, who proved his identity to me to my satisfaction, and he acknowledged his signature on this Affidavit in my presence and stated that he did so with full understanding that he was subject to the penalties of perjury.

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Notary Public of the State of Ohio