Tick-ets Are Bills of Exchange

[ezrhythm]

Violation Tickets and the Bills of Exchange Act

Excerpt from: Bursting Bubble of Government Deception by: Robert Arthur Menard

TICK, contracts. Credit; as, if a servant usually buys for the master upon tick, and the servant buys something
without the master's order, yet, if the master were trusted by the trader, he is liable. 1 Show. 95; 3 Keb. 625;
10 Mod. 111; 3 Esp. R. 214; 4 Esp. R. 174.

Have you ever wondered why when you get a tick-et, they give you a copy and not the original? Have
you ever wondered why if you pay the fine or ticket, there is still a conviction registered against your name?
Ever felt them tickets were something stinky and sneaky? Tickets are actually Bills of Exchange and the entire
ticketing process is the Notarial protest in a nutshell!
You are about to learn something exciting; when a tick-et is presented, you have the right and even the
duty to take the original ticket and negotiate a payment within three days. If you do this, the Officer cannot
give you the defendant’s copy and there will likely not be a conviction registered against our name. If they try
to stop you from taking the original, they are agreeing to pay it for you!
Let’s look at what is happening now. An Officer will pull you over and will issue you a tick-et. You
sign it, (often with his thumb still on the ticket) give it back to him, he gives you a copy. That’s the process.
What would happen if you tried to take the original? Would he let you? This is what Freddie Freepickle
thinks; you have a right to take the original ticket and if he stops you, the ticket is dead, or discharged for he is
not duly presenting it. Not only do you have a right to take the original ticket, you have a duty and the second
copy is really evidence that you failed to accept the first! Ask yourself, and him, what right does he have to
deny you the original yet impose a copy? Hmm?? A copy can only be imposed once the original has
APPARENTLY been dishonoured.

Imagine you are in the restaurant and the waitress presents you with a bill and when you try to pick it
up to pay it, she gets mad and tells you that in this restaurant, customers are supposed to reject the bill and
accept a mere copy of the unpaid and signed bill so a bouncer can then beat them up. You say, “I don’t want
to be beat up, I want to look at this bill and see what I owe so I can pay it.” If at that point she takes the bill
back without even allowing you to look at it, can she claim you refused to pay it and therefore send in the
bouncers? No she can’t. They are essentially hood winking us to get us to dishonour their bills. That is why
they can put a conviction next to your name. They never said it was a conviction for whatever the offence was
did they? No they didn’t. It could easily be a conviction for the dishonour of the bill!
Why do they do what they do? Society needed a way to regulate and control its member’s actions yet
only had and have lawful means at their disposal. The days of the whip and dunking bucket are thankfully
over. One of the means available is to present them with a bill or commercial instrument, which already
exists under commercial, or common law if they transgress. The problem is that if the bill is accepted and the
fine paid, there has only been a lawful transaction and no conviction can possibly result. It was merely the
fulfillment of a contract. They have therefore developed a system that allows them to use a lawful instrument
and still create a conviction through dishonour. Unfortunately for them, they are dragging you into dishonour,
and the very nature of honour demands that one avoid causing any dishonour.
So with this knowledge, what good can we do with it? How do we use this knowledge to stop going
into dishonour with the bills when they are purportedly presented?
First when dealing with the Issuer, ask them these questions:
1. Is that a Bill under The Bills of Exchange Act? (In order for a bill to have validity, the drawer has to
have the authority and knowledge to create it. If they say they don’t know, they are admitting a lack of
knowledge)
2. Are you giving me a Ticket? (When he says yes, you have the right to take the ticket, not a copy of a
ticket. If he gets mad when you take the original, just tell him “You told me you were giving me a
ticket, not a copy of a ticket!”)
3. Am I dishonoring your presentment if I sign this and return the original?
4. Are you DEMANDING I return the original bill prior to being able to honour it?
5. Will you give me a receipt for the original before I return it to you? ( a receipt is not a copy of it)


Try to do the following actions:
1. Make him properly present the bill. That means in your control and possession. If he has not let go of
the ticket, he has not properly presented or served it. Do not try to remove or grab; lay your hands out
flat and make him deposit his book or the ticket in your hands.
2. Remove the original before he can stop you. At the very least rip the ticket at the top so you can point
to that rip in court as evidence of you trying to accept it.
3. The goal is for him to demand you return that ticket. The moment he does, he has rescinded the
presentation and the bill is dead or discharged. If someone does want to collect for it, it will have to
come out of his pocket! (You are demanding I return this to you without first paying it? You have a
gun and would threaten to harm or arrest me for accepting this bill? Ok…. But now you can’t lawfully
give me a blue copy, because that copy evidences I was not willing to accept the original.)
4. Educate the Officer. I have spoken with a few of them, they were all receptive, found the information
interesting and one just yesterday decided not to issue me a ticket until he could ask his superiors
about it. I was happy to leave him my address and invited him to issue bills or tickets to me anytime,
as I had a few ways to deal with them as well. The basic premise, that a copy cannot be imposed
unless an original was offered and rejected is a hard one to dispute; it is fundamental in law and goes
to the best evidence rule. They also acknowledged that in order for a signature to be collected, the bill
must be in my possession, and that the signature could in fact be evidence of just such a thing.
ACCEPTANCE OF A BILL OF EXCHANGE. In mercantile law. The act by which the person on whom
a bill of exchange is drawn (called the “drawee”) assents to the request of the drawer to pay it, or, in
other words, engages, or makes himself liable to pay it when due. It may be by parol or in writing, and
either general or special, absolute or unconditional; and it may be impliedly, as well as expressly, given.
But the usual and regular mode of acceptance is by the drawee’s writing across the face of the bill the
word “acceptance,” and subscribing his name; after which he is termed the acceptor. Black’s 1st. See
banker’s acceptance, bill of exchange, and sight draft.
FACT: A violation Ticket is a bill of exchange according to the Bills of Exchange Act. (Section 16(1) BEA)
FACT: A bill returned to the issuer by you with merely a signature on it is evidence of a dishonoured bill.
(Sec 98 BEA)
FACT: A copy of a dishonoured bill is evidence that the bill was presented, served and dishonoured.
(Section 10 BEA)
FACT: The reason they impose the copy on you is because you failed to take the original! You can take
the original, not a mere copy.
FACT: If the officer tries to stop you from taking the original, HE IS DISCHARGING THE BILL FOR YOU
AND ENDS UP BEING LIABLE! (Sec 84 BEA.)
FACT: You have three days grace to honour the bill (original) once presented to you. (Sec 41 BEA)
FACT: If you sign a bill, it is assumed that you are a party to that bill and are liable for it. (Sec 35 (2) BEA)
FACT: You can accept the bill up to two days after it has been duly presented. (Sec 79(1) BEA)
FACT: You do not have to sign the ticket unless you intend to give it back to the officer dishonoured.
FACT: If the officer presenting the bill is incapable of accepting payment when offered, the bill is
considered invalid.

[Akira]

ezrhythm,

Interesting !! This appears to be a simple tool with promise.... if you're Canadien..

Time to do some homework, and verify all this...


For HIS Glory,
Akira

[Codee]

Any evidence at all that a ticket is a bill of exchange??? It does not seem like a bill of exchange to me.

[Livefire]

In Michigan there is no signature required at all....copper just hands you a copy after he is done filling it out.

[Big Al]

Originally Posted by Livefire

In Michigan there is no signature required at all....copper just hands you a copy after he is done filling it out.

Once upon a time in a galaxy far, far away. I hear that one of those cold states did not have Dl's, does anyone know if that's true?

[Gannon White]

Originally Posted by Codee

Any evidence at all that a ticket is a bill of exchange??? It does not seem like a bill of exchange to me.

Is UCC the code what specifies rules of BOE? If not, what's the equivalent? You would find it wherever the rules of Bill's of Exchange are stipulated.

Here, (Canada) is just called "The Bills of Exchange Act".

If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck......

So far I haven't found much difference between our countries when it comes to procedure and/or common law.

[charlesa6]

You are to proof your claim that citations are a Bill of Exhange. Need more info.

[Dillon Hunt]

I could be wrong but I think that the Traffic ticket/citation/notice to appear is MY notice to the court that I volunteer to appear generally and not a order of the court for me to appear. I think I am tricked into volunteering into Traffic Court Jurisdiction instead of being arrested and going to jail. The officer is offering me a plea bargain and so by me pleading they get personal Jurisdiction over Me.

Any comments would be appreciated.


Maybe I will write on the citation/notice to appear the words SPECIAL APPEARANCE ONLY.

That may explain why the officer wants the original because it is my signed/official notice to the court of me requesting of them to hear the case.

Thanks Dillon

not legal advice

[Dillon Hunt]

The traffic summon/citation/ticket/ Notice to appear - may be an administrative summons like an irs summons that needs a judicial court order to make it mandatory.

Dillon

not legal advice

[charlesa6]

Originally Posted by Dillon Hunt

The traffic summon/citation/ticket/ Notice to appear - may be an administrative summons like an irs summons that needs a judicial court order to make it mandatory.

Dillon

not legal advice

In other to be mandatory, your citation/ticket etc, will indicated “Must Appear in person” that mean you must appear to face the charges or your license will be suspend and warrant for your arrest will be issue failing to show up for that citation hearing.