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Old 01-13-2007, 06:33 PM
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Old 01-13-2007, 07:19 PM
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Old 01-14-2007, 01:54 AM
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What a load of complete and utter horse hockey.

I just really love it when the very first paragraph of something is a total and complete fabrication from start to finish. The UPU was established and exists for ONLY one purpose, and that is to see that there is a free and unhindered flow of mail between the signatory nations. It has no other purpose, and is not in the least concerned with commercial matters other than in the delivery of mail. Since the UPU did not come into existence until 1874, it stretches credulity to the maximum to say it could have had any thing to do with the USA under the Articles of Confederation. National status is an act of recognition by individual nations, not some international body. So crap and more crap passed off as fact.

The UPU has absolutely nothing to do with banking or commerce and never has, has no presence other than the agreements the body works out between the signatories and is only concerned with the smooth deliver of mail.

The UPU does not involve itself in legal disputes of any sort other than those involved in the movement of mail between signatories. The UPU deals only with governments, and has no authority internally within a country, so can provide NO ADMINISTRATIVE remedy for any purpose for some supposed slight by a postmaster.

The UPU is only involved in setting international postage rates. Putting postage stamps on a document is simply a waste of postage, and it accomplishes nothing else. You might be able to mail it as long as it meets postal code mailing requirements but that is all. Incidently, putting a signature over a stamp could be considered franking, and unless you are by law entitled to do so can be considered a criminal act and is prosecutable.

Yes, by all means put stamps on everything, the Post Office needs the extra revenue and court clerks need something to laugh at.

The UPU has no magical powers, no authority of any kind, and no interest in individuals, they cannot do anything for you, and quite frankly could care less if you exist or not. Wasting postage stamps on documents is utter foolishness and totally a without any basis in reality as far as effect, or law, and will do nothing for paperwork, or legal filings except cost you money.

The rest of this is too silly to even bother commenting on.

This is not quite the silliest thing I have seen from wealth4freedom but it comes close.
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Old 01-14-2007, 06:41 AM
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The Postal Service is the basic expedition of the US district courts where commercial processes take place!

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It has no other purpose, and is not in the least concerned with commercial matters other than in the delivery of mail.

Leave it to a Quatloser to state the obvious thinking he is making the opposite point. The UPU is global process server for the IMF! Of course it must be over 18 and uninterested in the cases, so Notorial Dissent makes a very edifying point - we can use it as courts of competent jurisdiction too.

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If you do not view your mailbox as admiralty courthouse, then you are in the dark as to process in international law. Pay particular attention to the endnotes on the attached Libel of Review.



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Old 01-14-2007, 07:01 AM
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Notorial Dissent:

Why were the post offices in Washington D.C. placed under the authority of the Secretary of the Treasury?
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Old 01-14-2007, 07:12 AM
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That's a very good question, mrg. I want to know too. I don't like misleading or hearsay stuff. To convince me you have to proof your claim period.
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Notorial Dissent:

Why were the post offices in Washington D.C. placed under the authority of the Secretary of the Treasury?


And why is the Secretary of the Treasury also known as the US Governor for the International Monetary Fund.

But just the same mrg, I would like a link or papertrail to prove that point. Robert Rubin, former Secretary declared Southern church burnings terrorism in about 1997. Informed people about 501(c)(3) understood why him saying that but still the connection to tax exemption is so obvious the papertrail need not exist. A proof that the post offices in DC, meaning all post offices because the postmaster general is in DC, are all under the Secretary would be interesting to tease Quatlosers.



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Old 01-14-2007, 09:17 AM
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Incidently, putting a signature over a stamp could be considered franking, and unless you are by law entitled to do so can be considered a criminal act and is prosecutable.


This reminds me of Judge Roy Bean spinning an arrest in California and trying to say that stamping one's checks with the verbiage will land one in jail.
The Franking Priviliage, as it is called, is reserved (in the united States of America government) to Congressmen/women. Used only for official business, all one congressman/woman as to do is sign their name in the upper right corner of an envelope and presto, it is mailed for free! They have the privilage to use the mail at no cost to them. Franking is done so that no stamp is used. By using a stamp, Franking does not exist. If anything, one has just pre-cancelled their on stamp by writing on it.
Please do not insult our intelligence again ND. Many of us here can see right through scare-tactics and propaganda.
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How asinine

After reading ND's last post.
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The mental masturbation list.


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Old 01-14-2007, 04:39 PM
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But just the same mrg, I would like a link or papertrail to prove that point.

A proof that the post offices in DC, meaning all post offices because the postmaster general is in DC, are all under the Secretary would be interesting to tease Quatlosers.



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I did not believe this and went looking, and found legislation.

I do not know where I put it, so I will go looking again.

If I cannot find it in due course, consider the question withdrawn until I can relocate it.
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