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Old 06-20-2007, 07:59 AM
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Welcome Lawprof!!

I hope it does not ruffle anybody that I am welcoming a new member on Quatloos - Lawprof to register or at least read here. He basically registered there because he gets a kick out of nutty patriot arguments. Queen Demosthenes has deleted my posts there, basically for using links to show that I am right. So if Admin objects to my using this forum because I am being censored there, just delete this thread and I understand.

Here is the post she deleted there.

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No, I did not watch the video, sorry. I'm at my office and don't normally watch videos or listen to wav files on my desktop. It looks to me like you are making the argument needlessly complicated.

Let's assume you are a worker. You go to get a job and agree to work for ten dollars an hour. When he hands you ten dollars for your hour's labor, the contract is complete. You cannot now claim some mumbo-jumbo about how you wanted to be paid in gold or silver etc. You are free to contract for anything you like BEFORE CONSUMMATING the deal.

Of course, no one (for the most part) would agree to pay you in gold (I can picture some who might pay you in barter -- suppose you were a farm worker and the farmer said, "I'll let you keep every fourth bushel you pick as payment for picking the other three,"). That's the problem with most of these alternate universe theories -- they try to mix and match reality with a new set of rules introduced after the game has started.

I also notice that most of the proponents of the Alternate Universe theories want to adopt rules favorable to themselves and unfavorable to banks, the government and any other entity they owe money to. Surprise surprise. Why didn't any of these "new rules" occur to them when they bought their house (the one they can't afford now), or hired employees (the Browns), etc?

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My point is that you are here for entertainment. So you should get a look at the video sometime. Someone got excited enough about it they uploaded it to YouTube if you prefer:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...06869308133588

You are of course familiar with Trebilcock v Wilson, an early case about contract agreement for payment and its inherent premise that if legal tender is offered and refused the debt is waived. And that is the proposition you expound upon here.

So my point is that without viewing the video, you assume the issue is one thing and I am talking about the right to redeem lawful money. For example this definition for lawful money was repealed not amended - so it becomes unclear how Congress defines lawful money anymore:

http://uscode.house.gov/uscode-cgi/f...20%20%20%20%20

Thanks again Webhick.

Here is an NGO definition I agree with:

http://www.investorwords.com/2733/lawful_money.html

And Wserra contributed to the definition by showing us how Congress defines lawful money according to the Supreme Court:

Rickman standing on Ware;

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Originally Posted by US v Rickman; 638 F.2d 182
In the exercise of that power Congress has declared that Federal Reserve Notes are legal tender and are redeemable in lawful money.

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Originally Posted by US v Ware; 608 F.2d 400
United States notes shall be lawful money, and a legal tender in payment of all debts, public and private, within the United States, except for duties on imports and interest on the public debt.

Therefore it stands up to logic that Title 12 U.S.C. §411 is still on the books since the central banking empire came to America in 1913, but was amended around the Bankers' Holiday gold seizure in 1933-34. However it still leave remedy and recourse to having to utilize the elastic money supply furnished by the Fed.

It is like what you are saying but outside the scope of the employee/employer agreement - because US notes and Federal Reserve Notes are both US dollars. When one cashes the paycheck, they still have a choice between FDR's Government bonds, and Government currency.

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“Recognized Government bonds are as safe as Government currency. They have the same credit back of them. And, therefore, if we can persuade people all through the country, when their salary checks come in, to deposit them in new accounts, which will be held in trust and kept in one of the new forms I have mentioned, we shall have made progress.” The Public Papers and Addresses of Franklin D. Roosevelt; 1933 The Year of Crisis; Random House 1938; page 19. Excerpt from the Address before the Governors’ Conference at the White House. March 6, 1933.


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It is worth noting that the fealty to the Pope, which you cited for its explicit mention of the Templar abbey in Dover, is the legal basis for the invalidation of the Magna Carta after it was sealed at Runnymede.
During discussion about the Treaty of 1213 and the Magna Charta (1215).

http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/medieval/magframe.htm
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/john1a.html
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Old 06-20-2007, 11:23 AM
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Voice in defense of David.


The management and most of top "writers" at Quatloos
act no less than dishonest and frankly - as deviant sub-humans.


They can neither hold an intelligent debate nor care for it.

Their favorite tactic is to delete, to censor, and to lie
even more than can manage, spilling tons of foul language.

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As for trash, the Orcs have so consistently unloaded on you, David,
at Quatloos, that means that they have failed to deal with your research by
substance and procedure i.e. their total failure.

They can bark all they want, the competent readers know that you are one
of the top researchers on the Web as pertaining to the underground law, which
only a few know, as it has been hidden from the Public for a reason
.


When I was replying at Quatloos soundly and by facts, the cat in helmet -
their Administrator, just deleted my post and left the post of her butt kisser alone.

On top of it, I was blocked from answering, while any reference to our Forum
was listed as SEWER.

That is stealing and perversion.

Therefore, I confirm that such tactics go on there.

So, I followed up on my warning that if any one would "steal" my posts,
I would post them here.
http://www.suijuris.net/forum/articl...os-spirit.html

And I did till crashed the opposition one by one
by fact and merit.

Why can't David do the same?
Should it not be his given right, without asking for it?




The fact that some members here had no clue what was
going on and wrote nonsense, trying to look smart only,
backfired on them later, while I was defending, equally, Sui Juris and myself,

Few other cronies revealed that they are traitors to our Principles and butt kissers
of cat in helmet (that is a real avatar of that female-administrator)



What does that tell you of such administrator?

She should try to put lime on her head and squeeze it hard if thinks torturing
a cat that way is funny?

No wonder it is funny to these Orcs to steal and block...
lime-heads, Richard-heads in an abbreviated format...




David should have not any less rights than any of us
to have his writings intact.


However, when meet resistance, as I stood up to all of them, when the Orcs
began spreading libel and slander vs. me and failed to prove their junk,
they cried that I was rude and how hurt they were.


They have practiced the same tactics vs. any one who dared to speak basic truth
or just has an independent opinion.


Therefore, any one who has been ever posting there
for any reason, should have a fair opportunity to have his or his posts listed here.

It is a matter of basic Justice!

Don't any one, even dare, blocking or deleting any controversy here; otherwise,
such moderators belong to Quatloos.

Whoever is not interested in reading, should move on to other Threads/Posts.


May David or anyone be able to follow basic Principles of free expression and journalism
of having the posts undeleted/uncensored.


A strong support for the Just Cause is issued, hereto!


PS. Any members of Quatloos should have a fair chance to have
equal rights on our Forum, as long as do not infringe on our Rights.


We are not them and should treat them all fairly.

All have to be welcomed.

I would never even think of deleting or censoring anyone,
as that is a sigh of failure and weakness, unless the Higher Principles are
violated and they must be defended first, then.

The worse the adversary acts, the more I quote him/her and even enlarge
the key messages, as all can discern on their own and I have such confidence!



I highly recommend all to read David's research.

As for disagreements, may all debate intelligently and
most of us, undoubtedly, are interested in truth only - not in defense of the Authors.

Amen!
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Old 06-20-2007, 01:46 PM
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Thank you SharingLights;


If I had any problem with it, I would quit posting there. My only objection is the newbee is being denied the alleged entertainment value of my posts. For a perfect example:

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I'm doing my damnedest to start monitoring and deleting David's attempts to hijack every thread and make this forum "All David, all the time". But I gotta let him post if you are going to the same threads to make fun of him.

It's up to you guys.

How in the world could one member/poster be causing so much problem? Judge Roy Bean answered that last week by suggesting I no longer be able to link evidence, like Congressional Records and court cases etc.

The reason those Quatlosers have such a problem is that when I make assertions I usually back it up with an image. The Quatloser Insultinator is so sleezy that Demosthenes was evidently worried that Lawprof would get scared away; but he seems to be fitting in well already.



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It is worth noting that the fealty to the Pope, which you cited for its explicit mention of the Templar abbey in Dover, is the legal basis for the invalidation of the Magna Carta after it was sealed at Runnymede.
During discussion about the Treaty of 1213 and the Magna Charta (1215).

http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/medieval/magframe.htm
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/john1a.html
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Old 06-20-2007, 05:54 PM
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Free Ed Brown

I just posted this to a reporter named scoop, snooping around Quatloos like that will help. Somebody should get this to the Browns.


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You might want to check that the liens are filed properly by NH law.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uniform/vol7.html#fedln


http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/...-B/454-B-2.htm

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Section 454-B:2

454-B:2 Place of Filing. –

I. Notices of liens, certificates, and other notices affecting federal tax liens or other federal liens including without limitation releases, subordinations, refiled notices, and discharges shall be filed in accordance with this chapter.

II. Notices of liens upon real property for obligations payable to the United States and certificates and notices affecting the liens, including without limitation, releases, subordinations, refiled notices and discharges, shall be filed in the registry of deeds of the county in which the real property subject to the liens is situated. The register of deeds shall receive, record, and index the same in accordance with RSA 478.

III. Notices of federal liens upon personal property, [Like the Brown's alleged lien.] whether tangible or intangible, for obligations payable to the United States, certificates, and notices affecting the liens shall be filed in the office of the secretary of state. In addition, certificates and notices affecting federal liens previously filed in a city or town clerk's office shall be filed in the office of the secretary of state.

Source. 1988, 116:1. 2001, 102:54, eff. June 26, 2001. 2005, 219:1, eff. Jan. 1, 2006.

Oops! The IRS misfiled the federal tax lien against the Browns!

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/ht...3----000-.html

Do you suppose that is what it means when they say Under state law? You see Scoop; there are people around here who believe that if the IRS agent chooses this to the US district court venue, they do not have to abide by the state stipulations for process...

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(f) Place for filing notice; form

(1) Place for filing

The notice referred to in subsection (a) shall be filed—

(A) Under State laws

(i) Real property In the case of real property, in one office within the State (or the county, or other governmental subdivision), as designated by the laws of such State, in which the property subject to the lien is situated; and

(ii) Personal property In the case of personal property, whether tangible or intangible, in one office within the State (or the county, or other governmental subdivision), as designated by the laws of such State, in which the property subject to the lien is situated, except that State law merely conforming to or reenacting Federal law establishing a national filing system does not constitute a second office for filing as designated by the laws of such State; or

(B) With clerk of district court

In the office of the clerk of the United States district court for the judicial district in which the property subject to the lien is situated, whenever the State has not by law designated one office which meets the requirements of subparagraph (A); or...

You will probably agree that this pretty much lets the Browns off the hook.



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Originally Posted by Shoonra
It is worth noting that the fealty to the Pope, which you cited for its explicit mention of the Templar abbey in Dover, is the legal basis for the invalidation of the Magna Carta after it was sealed at Runnymede.
During discussion about the Treaty of 1213 and the Magna Charta (1215).

http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/medieval/magframe.htm
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/john1a.html
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