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Old 06-17-2008, 08:31 AM
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What is true exactly? That any electronic device can be used against us? I think that is a given. Therefore, the odds are they are doing it (if it can be done most likely they ARE doing it). So then the issue is how can we foil their efforts w/ TV and PC (like I said, Cell Phone is easy, just put it in a drawer or glove box and never talk about anything sensitive while actually on a cell call). I would think there is a software that could use to block it or simply remove the hardware????? I mean, it's beyond creepy to think that when I was TV they are watching me!
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Old 06-17-2008, 08:34 AM
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I just said there are white papers and theories on the issue.

They may (or may not) have the technology sufficient enough to do what you stated.

As far as some of my other opinions, TV is mind rot. You are better off throwing it out. PCs are handy, but it is so easy to ease drop on an internet connection.

Any sniffer would do the trick as long as you can gain physical access to the line or route.
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Old 06-17-2008, 08:58 AM
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would a router help your PC from being used as surveillance?

most TV is pure rubbish but some is really good. i still like to watch sports, some documentaries, an occasional movie, and a couple of comedies. how people can watch those reality shows though is beyond me. and anyone who gets their news (other than local events) from the TV is just lost. having said that, the only way to watch and listen via a TV is if the TV has a mic and a camera. So I'd have to examine the TV's to see if they have those features and if so, disable them. It should be that simple but the trick will be to finding these features. Maybe I should call a TV repairman???
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Old 06-17-2008, 09:20 AM
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No, a router would not protect your computer from surveillance.

A router (with a firewall) can protect your computer from infiltration from the Internet.

What a router does is that it works at Layer 3 of the OSI model. The name of that layer is the network layer. The network layer handles routing and addressing (for most people that addressing protocol will be IP or Internet Protocol). A router forwards your traffic along the most efficient path with backup paths on standby when needed for when a route goes down. This applies more so for routers on Internet backbones.

Routers demarcate broadcast domains as well.

If you want some security from surveillance you will need to focus on securing your machine from fingerprinting as well encryption protocols to secure the traffic. The host will need to be secured from viruses, spyware, malware, keyloggers, and rootkits

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Old 06-17-2008, 06:10 PM
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the ''net'' (tool for capturing game) or the ''web'' seems to force you to traffic in commerce.catching those who are unaware of its ''nature''. someone did a ''study'' of it not so long ago and came up with some interesting results.
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