FBI GETTING SERIOUS

Hey, Bill, you seem to enjoy your fellows misfortune. What do you have against homeowners? Renters are also kicked out if the dont pay their monthly rent.

By the way, you forgot scenario

4) A giant reality show with a lot of TV cameras and microphones around the victim. After all, don't they say television is the best invention ever?

Don't understimate noisy "victims". There is only a thing more dangerous than a MC: a person pushed against a corner with no open back door and nothing to loose.

[weishaupt1776]

Bill, I haven't noticed you chime in on the Land Patent threads, yet

[charlesa6]

Originally Posted by Bill Smith

Except that the sheriff will come to throw you out of the house so it can be sold. At that point, you have three choices:

(1) Leave peacefully

(2) Don't leave, have the officers drag you out and get arrested for disturbing the peace or some other petty charge

(3) Shoot it out with the sheriff

Most people talk big about (3) but when the moment of truth comes it is usually (1) and sometimes (2). Of course, anybody can TALK big on the internet.

Bill remember, the sheriff cannot, will not throw you out without the court order. There is no backend with this without the proper notice to you.

[dadmoonbunny]

In the wee hours of the morning, we are sometimes at our most lucid, and then you recognize the "gut feelings" that sometimes come along.

This morning, After reading on this thread, My mind made a possibly invalid link because "IT'S ALL COMMERCE" ask yourself,

Why are they changing the bankruptcy laws?
Why are they pushing through more foreclosures?
Why is the economy getting trashed?

My gut feeling is that this is all a carefully laid out plan to push us all into a "cage". It started with the removal of the gold standard and has continued from there.

How does the whole BIG PICTURE lay out?

Perhaps I am being paranoid, but I cannot help it. After all, just because one is paranoid DOESN'T mean "they" aren't out to get you.

Sic Gorgiamus Alus Subjuctatos Nunc

sure they can throw you out. this isnt about talking big. this is about who leaves the battlefield first. see, once you establish that the bank really owes YOU, at that point, its up to YOU to get your equity from the bank. if they throw you out the house, add that to your true bill. this is a paper war. let them take possession of the house. the house isnt the real issue. you want the equity because once you have the equity you can replace your "house". common law doesnt say you have to get a judge to give you the order for the money. you get the judgment against the bank. you are a bank also. the problem people are having is they are asking the courts to handle their business affairs. i can point to a lot of first hand knowledge about stuff people have done and the courts didnt say boo. the sheriff, true bill him also. hey, the one thing they cant run from is just compensation clause. shuts down everything they do to you. let them impound your car. cool, invoice them daily for their use of it. then start filing the liens on the cop , towing company and everybody else for failing to pay the lien. they will lose that war because even their corrupt system overstands just compensation. you hit them when they dont expect it. let them put on their show of taking your property. play dumb. no one is advocating fighting these people . you WILL LOSE when you fight them. agree with everything they are doing and turn their actions back on them. let them lead the way in a scenario you cant win on the front line. its the art of war, flank them and dont leave a way out.

Originally Posted by dadmoonbunny

In the wee hours of the morning, we are sometimes at our most lucid, and then you recognize the "gut feelings" that sometimes come along.

This morning, After reading on this thread, My mind made a possibly invalid link because "IT'S ALL COMMERCE" ask yourself,

Why are they changing the bankruptcy laws?
Why are they pushing through more foreclosures?
Why is the economy getting trashed?

My gut feeling is that this is all a carefully laid out plan to push us all into a "cage". It started with the removal of the gold standard and has continued from there.

How does the whole BIG PICTURE lay out?

Perhaps I am being paranoid, but I cannot help it. After all, just because one is paranoid DOESN'T mean "they" aren't out to get you.

Sic Gorgiamus Alus Subjuctatos Nunc

"They" will not stop until we are all economic serfs. "They" will control all the wealth in all forms and will dole it back out to us according to "performance". "They" want to control all the world's currencies and assets under one big World Bank controlled by one big World government. These plans are escalating rapidly now.

Rebels like us will be hungry in a hurry. Our performance will not please the powers that be and we will be penalized by having our "rations" withheld.

Paranoia? What paranoia? Those gut feelings are a vestige of the instincts that kept the human race alive in the early days when the world was less safe. Or was it?

My question has always been this: Once "they" have it all, what then? Can there be any joy in having control of everything? Frankly, I have never seen the point.

Greed seems to be the order of the day, but when one has "eaten" everything there is what will happen?

Just my humble take on the way this is headed. I could be wrong.

[Bill Smith]

It's one thing to see 14 out of 15 people on an internet BBS attempting a strategy and it seems like everybody is using it. But how many people in your own neighborhood or city are successfully using these theories, or even causing significant delay to creditors?

Don't know about the rest of you, but for me it is "none". Thinking that there will be some sort of movement that will bring the banks down is wishful thinking, and not helpful.

Also, it is difficult to be successful -- truly successful -- without credit. You might get along, buy you will never had a true level of economic success without leveraging your existing assets through credit. Since the government subsidizes the use of credit by giving a deduction for home mortgage interest, you are crazy not to use it to the fullest.

That's my $0.02 and I await the posts that say that "millions" are using these techniques with success, and how Armageddon is going to occur next year anyway so why bother.

[sadie]

Bill

I thought you were pushing renting?

Interest deduction? For the 1040, the IRS form for the taxes we don't owe?

[doormonkey]

I'm beginning to see why every once in awhile folks around here get a little irritated with you friend. Are you on some sort of "messianic" mission to rescue the posters here from themselves? I do know of people who have at least significantly delayed action. Personally.

Maybe you have a vested interest in discouraging people from managing their problems successfully?

The easiest thing in the world is to be a critic.

[iscovedel]

Just to add to this thread-

Mass/grassroots effort alone may not be enough, in and of itself, to change the banking system-BUT, if there were a grassroots effort AND VIABLE alternatives, i.e. institutions NOT based on usurious principles, THEN there migh t start to be some change (this is basic economics, right? when there competition it benefits the "consumer"...I'm not an economist, but it makes sense)

peace