FBI GETTING SERIOUS

[Sheps]

Where are your.....

Must be in your throat. Sounds like you do a lot of sucking up?!?!?

Bill Smith
Don't know about the rest of you, but for me it is "none". Thinking that there will be some sort of movement that will bring the banks down is wishful thinking, and not helpful.

Where will you be situated when all this you say "wishful thinking" comes to pass?

[wirlwind]

[quote=dadmoonbunny]In the wee hours of the morning, we are sometimes at our most lucid, and then you recognize the "gut feelings" that sometimes come along.

This morning, After reading on this thread, My mind made a possibly invalid link because "IT'S ALL COMMERCE" ask yourself,

Why are they changing the bankruptcy laws?
Why are they pushing through more foreclosures?
Why is the economy getting trashed?

My gut feeling is that this is all a carefully laid out plan to push us all into a "cage". It started with the removal of the gold standard and has continued from there.

How does the whole BIG PICTURE lay out?

Perhaps I am being paranoid, but I cannot help it. After all, just because one is paranoid DOESN'T mean "they" aren't out to get you.

I agree with you DMB. I think that they "powers that be" are in a concerted effort to control the world through economics and eroding all of our God-given rights. And I firmly believe that all of the military base closings is an effort to free up space to start putting people "so they can protect them better." Ready made concentration camps. And take a guess at who will be the first ones to be "done away with"? I know I have become paranoid, and I used to be a very trusting person. I really believed that my governent had "my" best interests at heart, and that certain things "had to be endured" for the "good of the many".

What scares me is the way that most people look at the current trends as "good" things. Like going to a cashless society-what a convenience! Don't have to worry about anybody stealing your money anymore! My father thinks that it is the greatest thing since sliced bread. Or the ever-increasing invasion into our privacy and so many people say "it makes me feel safer!" The brain-washing is very effective.

[wisper]

[quote=wirlwind]

Originally Posted by dadmoonbunny

In the wee hours of the morning, we are sometimes at our most lucid, and then you recognize the "gut feelings" that sometimes come along.

I agree with you DMB. I think that they "powers that be" are in a concerted effort to control the world through economics and eroding all of our God-given rights. And I firmly believe that all of the military base closings is an effort to free up space to start putting people "so they can protect them better." Ready made concentration camps. And take a guess at who will be the first ones to be "done away with"? I know I have become paranoid, and I used to be a very trusting person. I really believed that my governent had "my" best interests at heart, and that certain things "had to be endured" for the "good of the many".

What scares me is the way that most people look at the current trends as "good" things. Like going to a cashless society-what a convenience! Don't have to worry about anybody stealing your money anymore! My father thinks that it is the greatest thing since sliced bread. Or the ever-increasing invasion into our privacy and so many people say "it makes me feel safer!" The brain-washing is very effective.

Have you ever read the Illuminati Protocols, and how about the communist manifesto. Back in the 50s ad 60s the John Birch society was trying to wake the people up. The press, the polititions and therefore all the sheep, just accepted that conspiracy theories were for the paranoid and no politically correct citizen would buy anything that looked or sounded like one. Including the police action, (Korea, Vietnam, the Kennedy assasinations, Afganistan,Grenada, Iraq, Oklahoma City, NY City, The CFR, the Bilderbers
Wisper

[Skeptic]

So, the FBI is going after the mortgage elimination scammers... and that is proof that the FBI is desperate and the "system" is afraid?

Strange. As long as the FBI did NOT go after the mortgage elimination scammers, you guys claimed that is proof it is all legal and the FBI is "afraid" to prosecute them.

Folks, not a single person "eliminated" his mortgage through this nonsense and the main promoters of the scheme--the Dorean group leaders--are now in jail, with the FBI now gearing up to put even more such promoters behind bars.

Call me cynical, but if this is evidence the mortgage elimination scam is "working" and is being "succesful" in "fighting the system", just what would count as the mortgage elimination scheme failing to work?

[PANICPASS]

So, the FBI is going after the mortgage elimination scammers... and that is proof that the FBI is desperate and the "system" is afraid?

It proves they don't like people challenging the system. If they didn't stop people from challenging the system, there wouldn't be a system. They want to invalidate the challengers because by "allowing" the challenge, it sends a message the challenge is valid.


Folks, not a single person "eliminated" his mortgage through this nonsense and the main promoters of the scheme--the Dorean group leaders--are now in jail, with the FBI now gearing up to put even more such promoters behind bars.

If the feds know that it is impossible to eliminate a mortgage why try to stop the people from challenging it?

"If the feds know that it is impossible to eliminate a mortgage why try to stop the people from challenging it?"

The people who run the morgage elimination racket are making money by fraud.

they file a forged release of mortgage from the first bank and get the homeowner to take out a SECOND mortgage and give them half the money.

now the homeowner has a new mortgage but only half the money from it AND he is still on the hook for the first mortgage because EVERY TIME THE CROOKS HAVE GONE INTO COURT ABOUT THE FIRST MORGAGE, THEY HAVE LOST.

the homeowner is left with one choice bankrupcy. that why the feds are going after the crooks because theyre crooks

[Skeptic]

It proves they don't like people challenging the system.

Well, yes--enforcing the law against those who "challange" (that is, ignore and break) the law is sort of the point behind the FBI's existence. So? The Dorean scammers break the law, the FBI is prosecuting them. Seems like what the FBI is supposed to do with lawbreakers, isn't it? Why is the FBI doing what it's supposed to do anyway proof the FBI is "afraid"?

They want to invalidate the challengers because by "allowing" the challenge, it sends a message the challenge is valid.

Well, yeah--if they didn't close the mortgage elimination scam down, they would be sending the messege the scam is legit. But they ARE closing it down, so they are sending the messege it is not legit, aren't they?

If the feds know that it is impossible to eliminate a mortgage why try to stop the people from challenging it?

For the same reason they close down people who sell immortality pills or free-energy machines. That is, in fact, the very definition of a "scam": telling somebody you can do something you cannot and charging them money for it under false pretenses. The point is that this harms people: people who "try to eliminate their mortgage" using the Mortgage Eliminator scammers' mumbo-jumbo lose their homes.

[PANICPASS]

The people who run the morgage elimination racket are making money by fraud.

Opinions are like *******s—everyone's got one and they all stink.

[Skeptic]

Originally Posted by PANICPASS

The people who run the morgage elimination racket are making money by fraud.

Opinions are like *******s—everyone's got one and they all stink.

Well, they're in jail. I guess at least SOME people agree with the idea that they're running a fraud. We'll soon get to see what the opinion of the judge / jury is about it, too.

[The Great Owl]

Originally Posted by Skeptic

That is, in fact, the very definition of a "scam": telling somebody you can do something you cannot and charging them money for it under false pretenses.

Sounds kind of like what the mortgage companies do doesn't it? Hmmm.

Anyway, The FBI doesn't care whatsoever about the little guy getting scammed. I've been the victim of thousands of dollars in mail fraud (I send money order for product and recieve nothing) and most of the time when I report it, I get no reply whatsoever.

The policing agencies exist only to protect the elite from the peasants, don't fool yourself. They don't give a damn about the little guys loosing their houses (obviously, or they'd go after the lending fraud) They care about protecting the interests of the moneychangers. After all, if the banks were all taken down, who would launder all the CIA/DEA/FBI drug and gun running money.