02-24-2005, 08:59 PM
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I do not give my trust easily or generally. I trust those with the specific things in which they've proven to be trust-worthy. You have my utmost respect though!
-BT
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02-25-2005, 05:18 AM
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The Respect is Reciprocal, BT
Proof, Cllout, Rep, etc. . . is definitely important. However, trust still requires the faculty of faith
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The whole system is based upon a 'presumption' that something was represented to have occurred which may or may not have occurred in the manner which has been represented.
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02-25-2005, 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by weishaupt1776
Proof, Cllout, Rep, etc. . . is definitely important. However, trust still requires the faculty of faith
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Personally, I believe faith and trust are exclusive concepts.
Trust is (or should be) based on a demonstration (often repeated over time) of trust-worthiness.
Faith, on the otherhand, requires no such substantial demonstration. Faith has no substance, per se - save for the substance of things hoped for. . .the evidence of the unseen.
-BT
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02-25-2005, 08:40 AM
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I've been dying to discuss this as it relates to trusts. Please read post count #8 Here
http://forum.suijuris.net/showthread.php?p=23427
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The whole system is based upon a 'presumption' that something was represented to have occurred which may or may not have occurred in the manner which has been represented.
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When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro - Hunter S. Thompson
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03-02-2005, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Dragon
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There is some excellent info at this site!
I highly suggest those of you who are in Florida (and those who would use the information and apply it to your state's laws) get the material. However, be aware that homesteading is for your land only. It will not aide in perpetuity, tax efficiency or personal judgments.
-BT
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03-03-2005, 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by TheBlackTruth
Personally, I believe faith and trust are exclusive concepts.
Trust is (or should be) based on a demonstration (often repeated over time) of trust-worthiness.
Faith, on the otherhand, requires no such substantial demonstration. Faith has no substance, per se - save for the substance of things hoped for. . .the evidence of the unseen.
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How can anyone be considered "trustworthy" unless someone had first stepped out in faith and "trusted" the person regarding some prior issue while the integrity of the person in question was yet unproven?
It would seem to me that an extension of "faith" is required before trustworthiness can be established. I know also that God works this way in my life as well. He continues to "prove" Himself to me, therefore, I continue to trust Him in greater and greater degrees. This allows my "faith" to grow. However, I had to trust Him first and allow Him to "prove" Himself. |
03-03-2005, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Sovereigneer
How can anyone be considered "trustworthy" unless someone had first stepped out in faith and "trusted" the person regarding some prior issue while the integrity of the person in question was yet unproven?
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Simple. Through observation and demonstrations of character in situations where you had no risk. For instance, you may trust a new employee (to a certain extent) because his/her referrences turned out to be good.
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It would seem to me that an extension of "faith" is required before trustworthiness can be established. I know also that God works this way in my life as well. He continues to "prove" Himself to me, therefore, I continue to trust Him in greater and greater degrees. This allows my "faith" to grow. However, I had to trust Him first and allow Him to "prove" Himself.
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In the case of spiritual matters, there is much less to go on, so more faith early-on is usually required. If people bother to really look, there is plenty of tangible evidence out there on which to build a reasonable belief that God is out there and worthy of our praise and worship. Faith would then come easier, I think.
-BT
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03-20-2005, 01:49 PM
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I've uploaded a Treatise on Asset Protection to my server. You can download it here: http://reallysmartpeople.com/downloa...Protection.pdf.
Enjoy!
-BT
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03-21-2005, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by BT
If people bother to really look, there is plenty of tangible evidence out there on which to build a reasonable belief.
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Ahhhhhhhhhh... When was the last time you read Hebrews 11:1, Son?
The Word says other wise. Faith and Reason/Logic are like oil and water.
YOU NEED TO REPENT, BT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Jerry Pitts
The whole system is based upon a 'presumption' that something was represented to have occurred which may or may not have occurred in the manner which has been represented.
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