Proven Asset Protection Systems - Page 3

TheBlackTruth · #21 03-21-2005, 04:35 PM

I've read it many times, Wies.

What you are stating (faith and logic is like oil and water) is not supported by Heb 11 or elsewhere.

Hebrews 11:

1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
2 For by it the elders obtained a good testimony.
3 By faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that the things which are seen were not made of things which are visible.

We all need to repent (Romans 3:23). What is your point?

weishaupt1776 · #22 03-21-2005, 05:16 PM

You stated that visible,tangible evidence can be a basis for faith.

That is contrary to Heb 11:1. The Holy Spirit cuts through all of that stuff to confound the wisdom of the wise, ma man.

We're gonna lay some cyber hands AWNYA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Since we're on the "Trust" issue, I've been dying for you to comment on thread count 8
HERE http://forum.suijuris.net/showthread.php?t=812

TheBlackTruth · #23 03-21-2005, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by weishaupt1776

You stated that visible,tangible evidence can be a basis for faith.

That is contrary to Heb 11:1. The Holy Spirit cuts through all of that stuff to confound the wisdom of the wise, ma man.

We're gonna lay some cyber hands AWNYA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Since we're on the "Trust" issue, I've been dying for you to comment on thread count 8
HERE http://forum.suijuris.net/showthread.php?t=812

I'm not sure your paraphrasing of my words is accurate.

I can only assume you are referring to the following quote:

"If people bother to really look, there is plenty of tangible evidence out there on which to build a reasonable belief that God is out there and worthy of our praise and worship."

That statement is still very true and not contrary to the content of Hebrews 11 or any other passage of scripture of which I am aware.

As for a comment on the "Trust" issue, i can't say i have anything of substance to say. . . I don't agree with that characterization of the Trinity, nor did I want to get into an argument over it. I chose my battles carefully these days

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-BT

weishaupt1776 · #24 03-21-2005, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBlackTruth

The easiest to fall to a litigation attack would be the statutory entities (e.g. corporations, LLC's, LLP's, etc.) by virtue of their dependency on the government for their existence.

That is 100% the truth. The best way to go is a multi-member LLC where you fill out W-9's w/o your name & soc. Use the LLC for people who do biz "in the box"

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Originally Posted by TheBlackTruth

Common-law entities (e.g. corp soles, trusts, etc.) are much better than corporations in all categories. Firstly, a properly used trust is never registered with any government and as such can maintain a fair amount of anonymity. Common-law trusts have no tax liability as they are considered non-entities by the IRS. Trusts can be liened and judgements can stick, but it's not as easy to identify culpable parties if the trust's members are properly structured. A trust, although very handy, is still just another tool and can't do it all.

It is cool to have the trusts lien each other up & have the LLC rent property from them

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Originally Posted by TheBlackTruth

So far we've covered two jurisdictions. There is one remaining jurisdiction that, when used in conjunction with the other two, can provide you with true "bullet proof" Asset Protection - The Offshore Jurisdiction..

Wouldn't it be wise to use a NON-Tax treaty nation. I found this web page in the IRM that had a list of all the Tax Treaty nations. I was like ," stay away from them"
Man, your first post is a killa, BT. I'll have to read on

TheBlackTruth · #25 03-21-2005, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by weishaupt1776

That is 100% the truth. The best way to go is a multi-member LLC where you fill out W-9's w/o your name & soc. Use the LLC for people who do biz "in the box"

It is cool to have the trusts lien each other up & have the LLC rent property from them

Wouldn't it be wise to use a NON-Tax treaty nation. I found this web page in the IRM that had a list of all the Tax Treaty nations. I was like ," stay away from them"
Man, your first post is a killa, BT. I'll have to read on

I go over favorable jurisdictions in my Treatise. I have attached it to this post. Right now, the most favorable jurisdiction is Panama. There you can enjoy an environment with no Mutual Legal Assistance Treaties (MLATs) whatsoever.

Here is an excerpt:

Why Panama?

Panama has no mutual legal assistance treaties (MLAT's) for sharing of banking information with any other nation and does not recognize court rulings from other countries. In fact, revealing banking information to third parties is a crime in Panama, punishable by imprisonment. There is no such thing as "piercing the corporate veil" in Panama. Panama Corporations offer Bearer Shares , allowing shareholders to maintain 100% privacy and confidentiality.

Panama's circulating currency is the U.S. Dollar, and Panama has no currency exchange controls or currency restrictions so funds can flow in and out of the country freely. Panama continues to maintain what is considered to be the most solid banking and corporate book secrecy laws in the world, which are engraved in its constitution. With Britain's proposed regulation for removal of bank and corporate book secrecy in the UK offshore territories, it is clear that Panama remains the most secure offshore financial center - where privacy and confidentiality is not only respected, but vigorously protected by constitutional law.

Currently operating out of Panama are well-known companies such as Federal Express, DHL, Sears, Price Costco, Bell South, Kansas City Southern Railways, Continental Airlines and American Airlines, to name a few.

-BT

Livefire · #26 03-21-2005, 07:19 PM

Weis,

The Psalmist said, The heavens do declare the glory of God. I think BT has Blaise Pascal's mindset in this....

For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and injustice of those men that detain the truth of God in injustice: because that which is known of God is manifest in them. For God hath manifested it unto them. For the invisible things of him, from the creation of the world, are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, his eternal power also and divinity: so that they are inexcusable.

It is to be observed that the pagans of whom St. Paul is speaking are not blamed for their ignorance of supernatural revelation and the Mosaic law, but for failing to preserve or for corrupting that knowledge of God and of man's duty towards Him which nature itself ought to have taught them. Indeed it is not pure ignorance as such they are blamed for, but that wilful shirking of truth which renders ignorance culpable. Even under the corruptions of paganism St. Paul recognized the indestructible permanency of germinal religious truth (cf. Rom., ii, 14, 15).

As a note......the constellations of the Zodiac and the 36 smaller constellations associated with them do preach the everlasting Gospel in pictorial form. When the Magii sought Yeshua out.....it was because they were able to discern what the heavens were telling them. They had learned this from the teachings of Zororaster, who himself had sat at the feet of Daniel the prophet!

weishaupt1776 · #27 03-21-2005, 07:28 PM

Man, you need a corporation sole, so you can accept donations, work & minister the Gospel Free of Charge ALL THE TIME.

Livefire Ministries

TheBlackTruth · #28 03-21-2005, 07:49 PM

You hit it on the head, Livefire (although i will have to do some research on the Zodiac allusion).

Creation cries out for her Creator. If arrogant, atheistic/agnostic men only but listen, they would hear. Evidence of God is all around us. We are without excuse. The proof of the seen is justification for faith in the unseen.

-BT

Livefire · #29 03-22-2005, 08:29 AM

One of the best books is called "The Glory of the Stars" by E Raymond Capt
one of the sites that you can order from is www.artisanpublishers.com
Quite an eye opener!!!

snowy1 · #30 04-14-2005, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by weishaupt1776

Man, you need a corporation sole, so you can accept donations, work & minister the Gospel Free of Charge ALL THE TIME.

Livefire Ministries

I have been trying to look & learnfrom this site as well as from advise from a friend upon another .If I remember right he recommended against a corp sole ,said to start a 508 ministry not a 503 ministry any comments?