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Offshort means Foreign
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Originally Posted by Leiahi
I've been researching my exemption account and offshore, misc. for some 6+ months. Does anyone have "advanced" research in this area? I'm past ready to weave this tapestry, just looking for other input from the SJ community. And affirmation!
Before you reply, please think of this: All things are related. To LAW. Including all the accomplishments of the members here. I've tied all of it together including, trusts, IRS/W-? issues, UCC and banking/contracts, credit, business and corporations, administration, constitutions, Rights, International Law, States and Unions, Republics, diplomats, etc. Traveling, DMV, Title, you name it. Foreign, Sovereign, I Am, Church, the Vatican.... If I've missed something.....you will let me know. BTW, my only weakness: court! ugh! (probably because it can be pointless? but I'm about to enter the arena, and I feel good!)
I want to acheive success with all the knots I'm about to tie in re offshore and Johnny Boy! I give SJ my word to share the fruits of my efforts. It's just not quite complete. This is the next avenue in the "big city", so to speak, so your help will be greatly appreciated.
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So foreign to whom? Foreign to the jurisdiction that is attempting to effect a transfer of property from outside their jurisdiction (ours) into their jurisdiction (federal-zone)
To whom is the law written?
It is written to PERSONs who OWE their obedience to the District of Columbia, being the Jurisdiction of Congress!
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01-24-2006, 12:11 PM
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Foreign Jurisdiction
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If we are considered "Men of God",
then is is safe to say that
"Government is foreign to the "people"?
Let's get back to the subject....work concurrent.
Without expansion all shall wither away.
Give me something I can chew on.
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01-24-2006, 12:24 PM
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Pay your dues first...
Mean what you say and say what you mean, always.
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Originally Posted by Katsumoto
In reguards to what Leiahi was saying:
I mean why do these people think they can make that decision for everyone else? I am a firm believer that each individual has a responsibility with the knowledge one obtains.
I mean come on now; the main quote on this SuiJuris website is "Know Thyself, Be Thy Master" That isn't easy when people with knowledge, (who has the same responsibility and obligational duty I was just talking about), will only share what they feel we should know, or simply surpress what they know. As oppose of spilling the beans and just letting out everything that they know. Now, what a person does after that is their own business. Just think how far we can get with helping other free themselves from the "Matrix" if we tell the whole truth and do not hold anything back. Once again, this is the opinion of Katsumoto.........
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Katsumoto, domo sumimassen,
In taking responsibility for what one knows: you take the responsibilty for what another does with it. It's cosmic and recorded but not to any detriment. I am the source to my own misery! That's obligated responsibilty.
"For the good of all mankind......" is an opinion based on belief, made into fact.
It's only good if it's truth. The truth as such that you are talking about (the knowledge), can hurt some. It's not a choice it's a fact. Life runs on three things, Opinions, beliefs, and facts. My opinion is that Opinions are like *******s; everybody's got one. Are not the history books of all time, written, based on all three? The Bible and biographies are good examples. Did I just start a War here? NO WAR!! The point NOW is the "responsibility" to KNOW THYSELF . And know the parameters of "your own" Matrix.
The people you are referring to "suppressing"..... have an obligation and responsibilty protect others before themselves. That may be a reason.
We are sharing here. That's all. We who post, share more than others. We need to get somewhere other than where we are at, which is nowhere without additional info, right. I'm not holding out anything but I don't go around dropping names either. I've paid my dues. I keep the greatest responsibility to "respect" others, learning a great lesson here (at SJ) myself. Instead of "assuming" what they are doing, I have learned to just "ask" them to share the info. Follow suit, we'll all help you.
Like George says: He learned to crawl before he walked. So, Katsumoto, keep it up and you'll be running in no time!
Let's get back to the party!
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03-18-2006, 02:19 PM
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w8 account
somebody suggested opening up an w-8 account onshore for you offshore corporation?? What exactly is a w-8 account and how would you interface it with your offshore jurisdiction?
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03-20-2006, 08:23 AM
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I encourage discretion in arranging any offshore accounts. Some countries have begun "cooperating" with the IRS and FBI, and more countries might do so in the future.
Worse, some of those offshore banks - the ones heavily advertising themselves to people looking to stash money who clearly don't yet know the good banks from the bad - are figments of someone's crooked imagination. More than once many people sent lots and lots of their money to a purported bank whose address put it under water at high tide -- and would permanently wash away like a sand castle when the guy running it had accumulated enough of other people's money. In at least one instance, this offshore bank turned out to be someone's home in the US - the FBI had a field day with him and the IRS had a field day with many of the people on his sucker list.
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03-20-2006, 12:01 PM
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FinCen Could be a Problem
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Originally Posted by Shoonra
I encourage discretion in arranging any offshore accounts. Some countries have begun "cooperating" with the IRS and FBI, and more countries might do so in the future.
Worse, some of those offshore banks - the ones heavily advertising themselves to people looking to stash money who clearly don't yet know the good banks from the bad - are figments of someone's crooked imagination. More than once many people sent lots and lots of their money to a purported bank whose address put it under water at high tide -- and would permanently wash away like a sand castle when the guy running it had accumulated enough of other people's money. In at least one instance, this offshore bank turned out to be someone's home in the US - the FBI had a field day with him and the IRS had a field day with many of the people on his sucker list.
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This information is correct based on many reports that I have seen in a newsletter, and other sources, that I got some years ago. They would have a list of countries that would enter into "cooperating" agreements with the U.S. every year. The names would change quite a bit each year. An individual would have a hard time keeping up with this. In addition, the U.S. and many of these countries use a system called FinCen to tract large amounts of cash flow. Be careful.
Thanks for that info Shoonra.
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03-20-2006, 01:14 PM
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FinCen
Thanks BOB12, Shoonra, and all replying here.
I'm very aware of FinCen and their (the banks) many ways. I've been studying their books and procedures (including law) for 3 years now. SARS are another one to be careful of.
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Originally Posted by mystic one
somebody suggested opening up an w-8 account onshore for you offshore corporation?? What exactly is a w-8 account and how would you interface it with your offshore jurisdiction?
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mystic one, if you are setting yourself up to do "massive" business and prosper like the wolves do, then it is advised. The W-8 is for foreigners doing business in the states (US). The interface is with your corporation (set up to do business). Tread lightly and learn alot before you engage. In your IBC thread, I made a post. My friends have arranged this W-8 with their IBC.
AT this point, it's just info time. Nothing solid is coming to great fruition in attaching the exemption to it. However, it is NOT myth. It exists and operates much to it's secrecy. Makes you wonder if they have a gag order on the individuals....?
I'm in contact with a couple that has cleared some $$$$ through this account.... Some words of caution: It's not about the info, it's about the "resposibilty" afterward. No one likes to be blamed for another's pitfalls or grievances. This board has enough bashing of "others", and we don't need that.
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