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If I misspoke it is only because I was a little flabberghasted. This may be the first time I have experienced the Lawyer(dude) actually overtaking and getting ahead of the ambulance!
All seriousness aside,
David Merrill.
P.S. Understand the ultimate charlatanism is when you can get the mark to recommend family and friends call you six months or a year down the road.
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05-27-2006, 12:17 PM
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Thanks for the example.
David,
The Trust Document Example you provided is a very interesting Document, yet I am not firmilar at all with the "New Deal", beyond a vague jist, or, how Franklin Delano ROOSEVELT can be the "Creator". Looks like I have more homework to do.
Could/Would you summerize Franklin Delano ROOSEVELT's relationship to this Trust, and/or, how the "Creator" of this Trust doesn't need to provide a wet ink signature?
Also, I have a few other questions if you [someone] don't [doesn't] mind answering, [feel free to ignore them if the answer would require a 'book' worth of verbage to explain]:
I assume that "True Name FAMILY" would be replaced by John William DOE, [if this was my First name Middle name & Family name], but, I wanted to clarify this because it isn't in red, and, the other "fillin" type elements are. Correct me if I am wrong?
The First Trustee would be John William, correct?
I noticed a split in the record of private & real property in term 1.04, is this an important point? Are there any ill effects due to listing all the assets on one Exhibit/Schedual & addendums to it?
Is there any lawful limit on the number of Benificial Units that can be issued by a Trust, or, can it exceed 100?
Could you clarify this aspect of term 10.02 a little further for me: "Display of a true judgment published in common law.."
Where is such an item displayed?
Is there a difference between a "judgement" & "true judgement"? If so, what is the distinction?
Would posting the "true judgement" in a post office qualify as being "published in common law"? If not, what would?
Did you draft this example of a Trust?
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Google turned up this site upon a search for "common law trust examples": http://www.rhfweb.com/trustb.html
I also found value in the list of case cites provided via this site: http://www.rhfweb.com/trustleg.html
I wouldn't mind a few more examples of common law trusts since,
The creator of a Pure Trust may mold and give it any shape he chooses, and he chooses, and he or the trustees may provide for the appointment of a successor or successors to the trustee or trustees, upon such terms as he may choose to impose.
Shaw V. Pine 12 AlIen (Mass) 293; also in Harwood VS. Tracy, 118 Mo. 631, 24 SW 214
It would be nice to have a few different styles to look at to get a feel for elements that would be "required", or, wise to include, and, those that are more taste & purpose related... yet, it is understandable that examples wouldn't be forthcommin due to the desire to keep some things private.
Are there any important points that must be considered in the drafting of a common law trust to prevent it from being 'penetrated'?
Prehaps a "check list", or, a list of "Do's & Do not's"?
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Note: It is a custom recognized by many People to use a ":" (colon) between one's name and their FAMILY name, and is used to segregate the name pertaining to the natural sovereign man, "Christopher Theodore," from the FAMILY name, "RHODES" (an implied trust), and further, both from the name of the implied constructive trust resulting from the workings of the New Deal, "CHRISTOPHER THEODORE RHODES."
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05-27-2006, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by aksis
David,
The Trust Document Example you provided is a very interesting Document, yet I am not firmilar at all with the "New Deal", beyond a vague jist, or, how Franklin Delano ROOSEVELT can be the "Creator". Looks like I have more homework to do.
Could/Would you summerize Franklin Delano ROOSEVELT's relationship to this Trust, and/or, how the "Creator" of this Trust doesn't need to provide a wet ink signature?
The instatement of War and Emergency Powers plus an overhaul in the government (three branches became one - Administrative) was all under the Roosevelt Administration. The wet ink signature is basically all over Executive Orders mainly between March and August of 1933 but this is also the beginning of the Social Security in place today too.
Also, I have a few other questions if you [someone] don't [doesn't] mind answering, [feel free to ignore them if the answer would require a 'book' worth of verbage to explain]:
I assume that "True Name FAMILY" would be replaced by John William DOE, [if this was my First name Middle name & Family name], but, I wanted to clarify this because it isn't in red, and, the other "fillin" type elements are. Correct me if I am wrong?
Your name is truly your first and middle. If you attach the family or surname then you have formed a full or legal name. That is not your name it is an artifice.
The First Trustee would be John William, correct?
The First Trustee is advised to be the Chief of Protocol for the US State Department - Donald Burnham ENSENAT; Louisiana Bar #05358. He is experienced in admiralty and maritime law. The matter is international between John William and John William Doe.
I noticed a split in the record of private & real property in term 1.04, is this an important point? Are there any ill effects due to listing all the assets on one Exhibit/Schedual & addendums to it?
It might be. That was years ago and I do not recall if I added that to the template.
Is there any lawful limit on the number of Benificial Units that can be issued by a Trust, or, can it exceed 100?
Not that I know of. This trust is just a template of the trust that is already in place.
Could you clarify this aspect of term 10.02 a little further for me: "Display of a true judgment published in common law.."
This is typically acquired through a Libel of Review upon someone libeling you.
Where is such an item displayed?
One can acquire a certified copy to display from the county clerk and recorder.
Is there a difference between a "judgement" & "true judgement"? If so, what is the distinction?
Would posting the "true judgement" in a post office qualify as being "published in common law"? If not, what would?
I doubt there is a difference really but any judgment in common law sets res judicata until overturned by the truth. So a true judgment based in truth is unlikely to ever be overturned. The typical place to cure notice and grace is the county clerk and recorder. Resort to other public notice if you are having trouble like some people do. I have used 1) Post Office 2) County Clerk and Recorder 3) the Big Church where a lot of local politicians worship 4) the Courthouse 5) the Library - all out front of the front doors on lightposts with that clear packaging tape. Law requires the notice be left for ten days so be diligent to go take them down on the eleventh day.
Did you draft this example of a Trust?
You may find the template I used by Googling a short phrase or two. I have seen so many "common law" trusts that I could tell this one was typical.
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Google turned up this site upon a search for "common law trust examples": http://www.rhfweb.com/trustb.html
I also found value in the list of case cites provided via this site: http://www.rhfweb.com/trustleg.html
I wouldn't mind a few more examples of common law trusts since,
The creator of a Pure Trust may mold and give it any shape he chooses, and he chooses, and he or the trustees may provide for the appointment of a successor or successors to the trustee or trustees, upon such terms as he may choose to impose.
Shaw V. Pine 12 AlIen (Mass) 293; also in Harwood VS. Tracy, 118 Mo. 631, 24 SW 214
It would be nice to have a few different styles to look at to get a feel for elements that would be "required", or, wise to include, and, those that are more taste & purpose related... yet, it is understandable that examples wouldn't be forthcommin due to the desire to keep some things private.
Are there any important points that must be considered in the drafting of a common law trust to prevent it from being 'penetrated'?
This is important: The trust indenture we are discussing was drafted for courts of competent jurisdiction to understand the functioning of the general public trust in place since 1933 or so. You are already utilizing this exact trust if you have a SSN. Implementing this trust would only be necessary if you needed to correct the record - for instance if the IRS was saying you owe money. Implementing the trust simply graduates the current constructive trust into an express trust.
Prehaps a "check list", or, a list of "Do's & Do not's"?
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I am pleased somebody has considered the effort thoroughly.
Regards,
David Merrill.
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05-27-2006, 05:12 PM
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This is important: The trust indenture we are discussing was drafted for courts of competent jurisdiction to understand the functioning of the general public trust in place since 1933 or so. You are already utilizing this exact trust if you have a SSN. Implementing this trust would only be necessary if you needed to correct the record - for instance if the IRS was saying you owe money. Implementing the trust simply graduates the current constructive trust into an express trust.
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I am pleased somebody has considered the effort thoroughly.
Regards,
David Merrill.
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When you say, "You are already utilizing this exact trust if you have a SSN", is your meaning that upon execution and receipt of the SSN application, that a trust is created with the person to whom the SSN is assigned is also the beneficiary?
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05-27-2006, 06:05 PM
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When you say, "You are already utilizing this exact trust if you have a SSN", is your meaning that upon execution and receipt of the SSN application, that a trust is created with the person to whom the SSN is assigned is also the beneficiary?
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When the man or woman in the legal or full name makes a claim, that is when you become the beneficiary.
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05-27-2006, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by FreeFromContract
When you say, "You are already utilizing this exact trust if you have a SSN", is your meaning that upon execution and receipt of the SSN application, that a trust is created with the person to whom the SSN is assigned is also the beneficiary?
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When the man or woman in the legal or full name makes a claim, that is when you become the beneficiary.
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I think we're at disconnect. When a trust is established, a beneficiary (or beneficiaries) is(are) named, correct?
When you make a claim, you are realizing the benefits due, correct?
Maybe I am looking at this too critically, however, doesn't the pure trust work in the same manner?
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05-27-2006, 06:46 PM
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The trust is drafted out to describe the public trust of Social Security/FRNs established primarily in 1861/1933. It is designed to be looked at critically.
Maybe if you ask yourself who gets the energy, when the claim checks start rolling in:
John William or John William Doe?
Since John William shops for and eats the food he simply used John William Doe as a persona in commerce. The real beneficiary is the man. The trust is JOHN WILLIAM DOE; not Social Security. Social Security is simply the custodian, transceiver utility (railroad) or trustee. But if you want to name somebody to interface for the State Department Donald Burnham is who I suggest being that the Social Security/FRN system is established by international treaty.
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05-28-2006, 07:17 AM
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The trust is drafted out to describe the public trust of Social Security/FRNs established primarily in 1861/1933. It is designed to be looked at critically.
Maybe if you ask yourself who gets the energy, when the claim checks start rolling in:
John William or John William Doe?
Since John William shops for and eats the food he simply used John William Doe as a persona in commerce. The real beneficiary is the man. The trust is JOHN WILLIAM DOE; not Social Security. Social Security is simply the custodian, transceiver utility (railroad) or trustee. But if you want to name somebody to interface for the State Department Donald Burnham is who I suggest being that the Social Security/FRN system is established by international treaty.
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OK, I was being overly critical. However, can you expand upon the "if you want to name somebody to interface for the State Department" comment?
Are you suggesting that someone (the future beneficiary - John William [Doe]) write Donald Burnham to indicate he (Donald) is personally to be the trustee or to change the trustee to another?
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05-28-2006, 07:56 AM
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OK, I was being overly critical. However, can you expand upon the "if you want to name somebody to interface for the State Department" comment?
Are you suggesting that someone (the future beneficiary - John William [Doe]) write Donald Burnham to indicate he (Donald) is personally to be the trustee or to change the trustee to another?
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He is in position for power of attorney in the public trust formed under Article VI of the Constitution. It is international treaty and he is Chief of Protocol. He is responsible to make any adjustments or offsets to the account (the TRUST). This responsibility is manifest through supersedeas bonding of HJR-192, the Bretton Woods Agreements and its subsequent Amendments (1975-76) - the Jamaica/Rambouillet Accord which conveyed you to be assets by Special Drawing Rights.
http://www.ecclesia.org/forum/images.../SeizeGold.jpg
I am not certain how the people who have done this actually executed the documentation. I suppose they simply sent the finished indenture to Donald for his signature being Presentment to Notify. After a grace period it was signed but the adjustments were made in that time. There are quicker and less cumbersome ways to collect heir apparent to the original estate.
http://Friends-n-Family-Research.inf...ovation_ER.jpg
Like I keep saying, it is unnecessary to actually implement the trust indenture because it is already in place Constitutionally. - Unless of course you need to see it work to believe it.
Which brings us back to why I implore you all to put certain members on your Ignore List. They are no threat in my mind; just enough annoyance that the people who have appointed Donald Trustee and had thier accounts Zeroed simply thank me and move on. They spend no time painting bullseyes on thier underwear.
Regards,
David Merrill.
P.S. One has to really make an attempt to understand things from a reverse-logic or morelike general convolution to reverse the convolution. There is no conspiracy; the System is simply designed so that you may function with FRNs as money when they are not (counterfeiting) without having to go to jail.
This may help. The Louisiana State Bar Association required me to give them Donald Burnham's SSN and DOB prior to giving me his Bar #05358, rendering his SSN and DOB public information:
http://www.lsba.org/
http://www.whitehouse.gov/government/densenat-bio.html
435-68-9318
2/4/46
http://www.lsba.org/Contact_the_Bar/...t_the_bar.html
Do you see that? Now you can call and get his Bar # too; instead of having to believe David Merrill. What an idiotic requirement! - that we have to acquire his DOB and SSN before we can get his Bar #!
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05-28-2006, 08:12 AM
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Before attempting to understand, much less rely on, David Merrill's inane babbling about Pure Trusts, check his track record.
If you are determined to investigate trusts as a method of asset protection (or for any other purpose), talk to a knowledgable person who is not associated with any trust marketing program.
Find out which actual legal, protection, and tax aspects relate to each type of "trust" or other asset protection program.
Arranging ones affairs based on unsupported advice and testimonials from the internet can be financially ruinous.
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