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Old 10-26-2006, 02:01 PM
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I was reading in Esther where Mordecai and Esther were given the power of attorney for and by Ahasuerus the king of Persia and Media. Mordecai and Esther used that poa to write a law for the defense of the jews.

Suppose you are given the task by your intellect for the procurement the power of attorney(poa) for some bank with the legalname BANK-A.
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Mika, I'm familiar with the concept from scripture that you're trying to expand on

but I think i have a problem with the foundation of your proposal;

that is that Mordecai and Esther were given the authority to write law
which the King would have had to sign into acceptance.

But the problem is that your point-options that you included were all based on fraud.

No where in those point IMO would the new law be needed to commit fraud.

Am I missing something else?
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Old 10-26-2006, 02:06 PM
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..., that you cannot appoint yourself someone else's agent,

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wrongo oh kemosabe, you refer to what is commonly called ``tacit procuration''
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Old 10-27-2006, 10:17 AM
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Mika, I'm familiar with the concept from scripture that you're trying to expand on

but I think i have a problem with the foundation of your proposal;

that is that Mordecai and Esther were given the authority to write law
which the King would have had to sign into acceptance.

Answer: Esther and Mordecai did not need the king, per se, to sign the law because the king had already given the ring/seal to Mordecai. see FN1.

But the problem is that your point-options that you included were all based on fraud.

Answer: And fraud is not good, just, and righteous is it? Neither was Haman (with poa) on behalf of the king telling all the people that their adversaries can kill said people on some certain day.

Feel free to challenge yourself to exercise your imagination to come up with moral reasons to acquire and execise a poa


No where in those point IMO would the new law be needed to commit fraud.

Answer: Is a power of attorney/appointment only for starting and/or stopping fraud?

Am I missing something else?

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Originally Posted by Esther Chapter 8, selected verses
2 And the king took off his ring, which he had taken from Haman, and gave it unto Mordecai. And Esther set Mordecai over the house of Haman.

7 Then the king Ahasuerus said unto Esther the queen and to Mordecai the Jew, Behold, I have given Esther the house of Haman, and him they have hanged upon the gallows, because he laid his hand upon the Jews.

8 Write ye also for the Jews, as it liketh you, in the king's name, and seal it with the king's ring: for the writing which is written in the king's name, and sealed with the king's ring, may no man reverse.

10 And he wrote in the king Ahasuerus' name, and sealed it with the king's ring, and sent letters by posts on horseback, and riders on mules, camels, and young dromedaries:

11 Wherein the king granted the Jews which were in every city to gather themselves together, and to stand for their life, to destroy, to slay and to cause to perish, all the power of the people and province that would assault them, both little ones and women, and to take the spoil of them for a prey,
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