Sovereign IDS

mystic one · #1 10-24-2006, 06:57 PM

the other day, bulletproof posted a good example of a notary affadavit illustration that all govt. id are null and void, and he had the notary sign this, so that he can have his sovereign id published on another doc.. A 2nd notary.. Not exactly sure why he did this, as some people have just had the notary, sign the sov id via restricted appearance........ ive heard a couple of interpretatins and problems one may encounter.

Also, if bulletproof minds posting a printable image, as the one restriceted apperance/null and void affadavit he posted had lots of lines in it and was a minature model. maybe he can play with the image in adobe more , so that one can landscape it, blow it up, and have a smooth image to print.

By the way, really enjoyed the certified promissory note, and have a nice pretty copy, that should definately make it to the downloads section some time in the future.

~mystic

mystic one · #2 10-25-2006, 09:55 AM

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mystic one · #3 10-25-2006, 01:35 PM

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fulltitle · #4 10-25-2006, 03:44 PM

Without Prejudice.
Old examples from a previous post.

mystic one · #5 10-25-2006, 08:03 PM

eweeeeeeeeee ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh.. wooooooooow.. thats very preeeeeeeeeety.... printing it now.

Thanks for the post fulltitle.

Bulletproof Monk · #6 10-26-2006, 06:41 PM

Hi mystic,

Thanks for that,

I did it that way because here the Notary is required to see a third party issued ID first, otherwise he won't do his job.

Having him put his seal on my declaration, verifies that this is a "third party" authorised ID, in my REAL name, and that all others are misrepresentations.

What he's doing is negating the port-pass I just showed him, by agreeing that it is void by way of SMJ.

Then I take that notice along to the next Notary, and show him the notice, and give him my sovereign ID to compare, and tell him he can make a copy of that.

Just a way around having 3rd party ID's on file.

Best
Bulletproof

P.S: As for the sample, I'm not able to upload a larger version due to the attachement rules, but if you view it in photoshop, once you've copied it you may be able to zoom in a bit and use the info.

Notorial dissent · #7 10-26-2006, 08:24 PM

The only thing a notary can ever attest to or certify, is that the person signing the document in front of them is the person signing it. That is exactly all the law allows them to do. It imparts no other significance to the document, it’s significance, or validity, and you can have it notarized from now until dooms day and it will achieve exactly nothing otherwise. It is and remains a document with no legal significance or standing.

fulltitle · #8 10-26-2006, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Notorial dissent

The only thing a notary can ever attest to or certify, is that the person signing the document in front of them is the person signing it. That is exactly all the law allows them to do. It imparts no other significance to the document, it’s significance, or validity, and you can have it notarized from now until dooms day and it will achieve exactly nothing otherwise. It is and remains a document with no legal significance or standing.

Without Prejudice.
Got witness?

Bulletproof Monk · #9 10-26-2006, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Notorial dissent

The only thing a notary can ever attest to or certify, is that the person signing the document in front of them is the person signing it. That is exactly all the law allows them to do. It imparts no other significance to the document, it’s significance, or validity, and you can have it notarized from now until dooms day and it will achieve exactly nothing otherwise. It is and remains a document with no legal significance or standing.

That's right...they verify who you are. That's my point.

They also do Notary Protest, protesting commercial paper etc...

The legal significance is derived through verification, service, delivery, acceptance, non-acceptance, honour, dishonour and protest, then certificate. Creating evidence and proof upon which to act.

The point remains this is a third party authorised document, which negates the need for me to supply a STRAWMAN ALL CAPS ID when required, the information and spelling being exactly the way I want it.

Bulletproof

mystic one · #10 10-26-2006, 10:04 PM

why not negate this, and just hand her a restricted apperance for as a state national, and when she asks for your state id, just instruct her to read your restriced apperance form, and this is why your not showing her state id, and just have her certify that you are appearing for her as your true status and not statutory person. no need to use 2 notaries.

have her sign the bottom, with a pretty stamp. done deal. Or have you already had problems trying to go that route?