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Old 08-27-2004, 04:48 AM
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Can someone point me in the direction of how to take care of this debt collector who included with his letter, copies of my VOD (dated 2/2004) to Marathon MINUS the initial BOE and the CPN I used to follow up with the last presentment.



Do you think I should thank him for the INCOMPLETE documents and I would like the 2 negotiable instruments that were used to discharge the debt returned to me?



Should I check to see if this debt collector is registered/licensed to do business in this state?



And of course do the INVOICE.



I last received 3 calls from this person last Sunday morning and by the third call he was YELLING cause I told him he was harrassing me and asked him not to call again. I didn't wait to hear what he was yelling about because I hung up.



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Old 08-27-2004, 05:21 AM
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Hula,



Without all the details, I can only offer this:



It appears that he dishonored your tender.



A simple letter with cited US codes and case law on what you demand should be okay.



Send a letter stating the above with a copy of a complaint form from the county courthouse. Letting him know that you mean business if he continues to violate the law and not verify the debt.



Finally, why would you invoice him? If you are speaking on UCC redemption, I cannot speak on such things as I do not approve of such methods.



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Old 08-30-2004, 05:52 PM
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If I may, I would like to suggest that you do the RIght Thing -- ask him who he is? How he came to be in possession of PRIVATE correspondence, Ask for a complete name and process serving adress to enable law enforcement officials to investigate the theft of negotiable intruments that were included with the communique he has in his possession (or does he?) Ask him by what authority he is intruding into a private, CLOSED matter (you did not receive any notice that your CPN/BoE was refused, right?) Do the standard CA stating you do not have nor have you received any proof that : and start listing the above -- he has proof of right to collect this debt; he is not a third party debt collector; he has not stolen valuable negotiable instruments; he is not in possession of private mail (mail fraud?); etc. I know that you know this stuff, but sometimes it slips so -- I hope that helps --

I think Jerseee misunderstood that this person is not tho one to whom you originally sent the VoD -- but some one with a copy of it attempting to re-contract the settled debt .. or am I mistaking the characters here?

As a third party debt collector, he has no standing in this matter and probably has purchased the debt after charge off -- seems he also purchased an "evidence file" if he has your VoD? Isn't tha illegal?

I would send the initial doc asking for verified answers to my CA, and then see what happens -- he may decide you are not one of the sheeple and move on. If not, we have more!



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