Banks, Collectors, and CRAs Discuss the elimationa of secured and unsecured "debt", as well as tactics for dealing with debt collectors and credit reporting agencies.


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Old 12-15-2006, 02:16 AM
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Shining the spotlight on debt elimination promoters

2200 people were taken in by this program which also promised to eliminate CC debt The Florida AG has lined the marketing director Thomas Spiler $500,000 new home in FL (always nice to see where these advance fees go).


There is currently a class- action suit filed from a lawyer in LA. They already have over 2200 people signed up and it is filed in Federal Court.
The Law Firm is:
Fenet Law Firm
Atty: Jack W. Riffle
8641 United Plaza Blvd. Suite 200
Baton Rouge, LA 70809
Telephone: (225) 926-5500
Fax:(225) 926-5577
email: Jack@fenetlaw.com

The suit is already over 10 million and grows as people are added. You have a year to file from the date you were signed up with New Leaf. James Patterson, owner of New Leaf .
Many are filing their complaint with the FTC.

Here is the link:

https://rn.ftc.gov/pls/dod/wsolcq$.startup?Z_ORG_CODE=PU01


Here's the URL for the FL AG Online complaint form.

This should make it easier for ALL of wronged by this to get on the list...........

here it is:Here is the link:

https://rn.ftc.gov/pls/dod/wsolcq$.startup?Z_ORG_CODE=PU01

http://myfloridalegal.com/Contact.ns...conomic_Crimes

July 7, 2005


Attorney General Files Suit Against "Debt Termination" Company


TALLAHASSEE - Attorney General Charlie Crist today filed a lawsuit against New Leaf Associates, LLC, and several associated businesses and individuals for their participation in a phony "debt termination" scheme. The lawsuit alleges that New Leaf and the other civil defendants took in more than $8 million from late 2003 until early this year by claiming they had a legal "administrative process" by which they could completely eliminate credit card and student loan debts for their clients as an alternative to bankruptcy.

An investigation conducted by the Attorney General's Economic Crimes Division revealed that New Leaf collected fees starting at almost $4,000 from approximately 2,200 clients who were lured by the promise that not only would their debts disappear but their credit scores would not be damaged. No debts were actually terminated by the program, and numerous consumers suffered financial losses as a result, the state's lawsuit asserts. The Attorney General's Office has received some 185 consumer complaints regarding the New Leaf scam, the highest total for any single complaint subject this year.

"Too many consumers are mired in debt and are desperate to find a way out of their financial dilemma," said Crist. "These defendants took advantage of their victims, who were seeking assistance to solve their financial problems. Floridians should always remember that if something sounds too good to be true, it probably is."

In addition to New Leaf Associates LLC and its marketing arm, Quantum Business Consultants LLC, the lawsuit names as defendants 16 individuals and 7 business entities. The individuals, including principals and agents of New Leaf and Quantum, are: James M. Patterson, Thomas Spiller, Luke Anastasakis, Phil Plastic, Ken Keplinger, Chris Holland, Paul Greaves, Brett Merl, Richard Spiller, Kris Schnell, Cecil Taylor, Lillian Varga, George W. ("Bill") Gute, Raymond Schlang, Chad F. Polley and Christopher S. Brewer. Business entities named in the lawsuit are: Ameribiz Consulting, Inc.; Manhattan Financial Group, LLC; Legal Club Financial Corporation; RWS Consulting, Inc.; B&B Enterprises International, Inc.; Quantum Business Consultants of California, Inc., and WJC & Associates, LLC.

The defendants are charged with violating Florida's Deceptive and Unfair Trade Practices Act. They could be ordered to pay restitution to their victims and also ordered to pay civil penalties of $10,000 per violation or $15,000 for victims who were disabled or senior citizens, as well as attorney fees and costs.

A copy of the civil complaint is available at: http://myfloridalegal.com/webfiles.nsf/WF/MRAY-6E3JUF/$file/NewLeafComplaint.pdf
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Old 12-15-2006, 03:25 AM
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Don't know this outfit's M.O. but some of these crooked outfits use a method they call "file segregation" but is actually identity theft. They tell their clients to use another SSN, maybe a slightly different name, because the outfit has gotten personal data on someone with a similar name to the client's.

The client might not even know that it's identity theft or that there's a real person somewhere with the SSN and name they've been told to use. By the time the FBI kicks in the door, the debt service has pulled a vanishing act but the client is in deep trouble.
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Old 12-16-2006, 05:29 PM
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Cigs and Shoonra, Thanks for the info! It would seem that with all of these people who are upside down and with no way out, There is a real need for some real legislation that really protects the consumer from all of these predatory lenders. Like real limits on their CC invitation game and other safeguards to make it far more difficult for people to get themselves into these jams? But I guess that ain't gonna happen. In this brave new world the U.S.(at least) has embarked on a system of business venture, that never before in the history of the world been done. That is since we no longer "manufacture" goods and our "service" industry is also being outsourced, the thing that fuels the "new economic engine" is.....CONSUMERISM?????!!! This country has now gone on to base its economic future on how much we spend at the mall! How long is that gonna fly? The blossom is really off the turd now. Party On Garth!
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Old 12-16-2006, 07:25 PM
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Thanks for the info, cigs and Shoonra. Right now, the FBI is cracking down on all bogus debt elimination including mortgage etc. I guess the bank is making noise.
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