credit card debt-collectors

[masterduke]

Allot of those dates and such will be of little interest to the jerk judge. He will only want to be able to slam you if you have no real defense to the debt attorneys claims. That "Sum Cert. is not allowable in debt collectors suits a judge in west Michigan has ruled. Check the Mis-Handling the Collection Case thread for a link to that very same subject.
Draft a counter-complaint motion so it will stop the burden shift the debt attorneys are trying to push thru(also a hidden "prima facie" trick) This will be a different timeline from your court appearance date. 10 to 20 days depending on the state where you live. If you successfully chalenge their attack they will not be able to make you the one on the hot seat trying to explain why you don't owe this debt. Please learn from one who was slammed by all of these issues I've shared.

None of us or this belongs in any court untill WE want it to be there.

Once you've perfected your notary protest then the only reason you are in court is to see that the 'judge' signs your order for a administrative (summary) judgment.

His/Her only job/duty at that point is to review the correctness off your paperwork and sign off on it.

If all is as it should be... you win - period!

Get it?

If WE all accomplish this process on the same page...

NONE of us will end up in court - unless WE want to...

Study the UCC remedies - especially the 'Accepted for Value' and returned with a letter of 'Conditional Acceptance' joined with a 'Affidavit in Support of the CA'

LEARN this inside out!!!

STOP relying on any court!
(except to provide administrative judgment on your perfected certified default)

[masterduke]

taxeraser, What will the judge say when you do not answer the summons with a valid defense that will include case cites and previous court/judge rulings? I would like to see where you can gain traction using UCC stratagies. I have heard of this stuff but have not seen much in the way of success. Please share your experinces or others that you know of.

[charlesa6]

Originally Posted by Taxeraser

None of us or this belongs in any court untill WE want it to be there.

Once you've perfected your notary protest then the only reason you are in court is to see that the 'judge' signs your order for a administrative (summary) judgment.

His/Her only job/duty at that point is to review the correctness off your paperwork and sign off on it.

If all is as it should be... you win - period!

Get it?

Taxeraser, welcome to the suijuris forum.
I agree with you 100%. Like I said before in my other post, if the UCC doesn't work, your ingredient is not completed period.
O yea, da man.

[doormonkey]

Every attorney who either directly or indirectly buys or is interested in buying any evidence of debt or thing in action with intent to bring suit thereon is guilty of a misdemeanor. Any attorney who in any proceeding before any court of a justice of the peace or police judge or other inferior court in which he appears as attorney, willfully misstates any proposition or seeks to mislead the court in any matter of law is guilty of a misdemeanor and on any trial therefore the state shall only be held to prove to the court that the cause was pending, that the defendant appeared as an attorney in the action, and showing what the legal statement was, wherein it is not the law. If the defense be that the act was not willful the burden shall be on the defendant to prove that he did not know that there was error in his statement of the law.

Oklahoma Statutes Citationized

Title 21. Crimes and Punishments

Chapter 13

Section 453 - False Preparation of Exhibits as Evidence

Do you think Wolpoff & Abramson regularly violate these laws??? Does this law only apply in Okahoma, and if so, how does one find out if there is a similar law in one's own state?

How does one go about proving that a particular Debt Attorney is violating the laws concerning debt collections in their state? Or at least sending them correspondence to let them know one is on to their game and if they don't stop, they could be in trouble themselves?

[masterduke]

Wolpoff is amongest the VERY WORST of the debt attorney scum and regularly break all sorts of laws and their partners in crime, the judges, are more than willing to turn a blind eye to their crap at all times. Unless you are able to box them and the judge into proper procedure. Not impossible, just have to know how.

OK, let me see if I can do this with/out messsing up.

WHAT do you folks NOT understand about the UCC?

You are all hung up with and almost obssessed with - COURTS - why?!!!

MY MANY experiences at this point reveal that there is NO redemption necessary...

WOW! That probably smackrd the poopoo right out of some of you. Guess what?

FACTS:

You do NOT Need to do a UCC-1 Filing (LIEN on the STRAWMAN)

All you do need to know what to do is available for free on line if you know where to go and what to to do....

Do YOU?

[mrg]

Originally Posted by Taxeraser

OK, let me see if I can do this with/out messsing up.

The folks here do not like standing under anything, for the most part.

Assume, I "understand" nothing; are you able and willing to provide specific, lucid, precise, comprehensible, "do-able," and validly verifiable educational resources that will personally result in demonstrable positive results if studied and performed to the letter of the instruction?

Have you a demonstrable and presentable track record of success that you will share as verification of whatever you seem to claim?

If so, will you show?

Many people seem to mysteriously find themselves in a so-called "court" under threat, duress, coercion, often at the urging of firearms that will go off and inflict mortal wounds in the absence of unquestioned submission, and/or in chains.

I suppose that might cause an interest, if not an obsession.

Your procedure, suggestion, proposition, information, will ameliorate these experiences?

Please do the "show" part of "show and tell."

(See above)

You provided a statement posted below the above NOTICE OF CLAIM, however I do not find valid verification as to "FACT."

Do you know "where to go and what to do...?"

Can you/will you tell me/show me "where to go and what to do..." "...for free?"

Can you/will you explain, and validly demonstrate the benefits of what it is that I will have obtained after knowing "where to go and what to do...," and having gone there and done it?

As I am most interested in this, can you/will you please clarify, and then, perhaps, if so inclined, provide either viable results-driven education, or certifiably valid educational resources.

Your positive-minded activity in this regard, precisely as stipulated will be most genuinely appreciated.

[BOBT12]

Originally Posted by mrg

As I am most interested in this, can you/will you please clarify, and then, perhaps, if so inclined, provide either viable results-driven education, or certifiably valid educational resources.

Your positive-minded activity in this regard, precisely as stipulated will be most genuinely appreciated.

Yeah, and then you may be able to give Roger Elvick, The Admiral of Redemption Law, a few pointers in order to get out of prison.

Redemption spread across the country after 1999, becoming one of the most popular anti-government extremist tactics. Redemption practitioners have been convicted on a variety of charges in Oregon, Idaho, Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Colorado, and other states.

http://www.adl.org/learn/news/Roger_Elvick_arrested.asp

http://educate-yourself.org/dc/rogerelwick04nov04.shtml

Looks like Roger has even less success then some of those who discuss these issues on the forum, what do you think Taxeraser?