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Old 01-08-2008, 08:50 AM
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Jurisdiction

If I affirm a paragraph that I live in X county Will that defeat my subject mater jurisdiction defence?
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Are you a man?
Or are you an artificial entity?
I a man can only live within this flesh and blood body and cannot live anywhere else.
And you?
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Old 01-08-2008, 10:58 AM
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That explains it all to me!
I get it now!!!!
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Old 01-08-2008, 12:40 PM
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That explains it all to me!
I get it now!!!!

Definitely NOT attempting to sell Rentiaps synopsis short, as I agree with him; another source of worldly information that will also show the complexity of the subject matter can be seen here: http://legal-dictionary.thefreedicti...m/jurisdiction

It also contains related links.

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Definitely NOT attempting to sell Rentiaps synopsis short, as I agree with him; another source of worldly information that will also show the complexity of the subject matter can be seen here: http://legal-dictionary.thefreedicti...m/jurisdiction

It also contains related links.

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That's a nice link Jerry.
It's good to see how the arti-ficial's are thinking.
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Affirm a paragraph?
Do you mean sign their paperwork?

What is the issue? Taxes, traffic ticket?

Is your only challenge to SMJ that they must prove you live in that county or is it just one of many bases you are covering?

If they are attempting to attach you to the case specifically by where you live then they will do it by determining evidence of residency, i.e. an address you use for school, voter registration or other government application.

Some declare their county as, "Montgomery: the county", instead of, COUNTY OF MONTGOMERY.
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Old 01-09-2008, 11:21 AM
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The term 'jurisdiction' is a derivative of the Ecclesiastical canons of 'church'. In scripture, this is found evident in
"1 Corinthians 6

1. Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints?
2. Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
3. Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?
4. If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.
5. I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?
6. But brother goeth to law with brother, and that before the unbelievers.
7. Now therefore there is utterly a fault among you, because ye go to law one with another. Why do ye not rather take wrong? why do ye not rather suffer yourselves to be defrauded?
8. Nay, ye do wrong, and defraud, and that your brethren.
9. Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10. Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
11. And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
12. All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.
13. Meats for the belly, and the belly for meats: but God shall destroy both it and them. Now the body is not for fornication, but for the Lord; and the Lord for the body.
14. And God hath both raised up the Lord, and will also raise up us by his own power.
15. Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an harlot? God forbid.
16. What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.
17. But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.
18. Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.
19. What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
20. For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's."

Also read here:

http://www.ccel.org/s/schaff/encyc/e...i.lxxxviii.htm

The canon law, in the sense thus assigned to the term, contains a large number of regulations pertaining to matters which, according to modern constitutions, have been withdrawn from ecclesiastical jurisdiction and placed under the ordinary secular tribunals. These provisions have thus ceased to be operative. They include the relations between Church and State, the legal status of heretics, ecclesiastical jurisdiction, etc. The Roman Catholic Church, it is true, still maintains in theory the permanent validity of these enactments, and claims the same preeminent power and independence of the State as it possessed in the Middle Ages. Since the Reformation and the upbuilding of modern nationalities, however, the principle of the unity of jurisdiction and the authority of the law has proved irreconcilable with these claims. The freedom and independence conceded to the Church in the ordering of its own internal affairs by no means involves the absolute supremacy and validity of the canon law when it comes into conflict with the civil law, or releases the ecclesiastical authorities from their responsibility and their obedience to the State; for the freedom of the Church, like all other freedom in the modern world, is a freedom within the bounds of the law."

Jurisdiction does not belong to Man but rather is a tool given to the Church by God, so that the Church can administer justice according to Gods' word among those that are members of the Church.

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