Banks, Collectors, and CRAs Discuss the elimationa of secured and unsecured "debt", as well as tactics for dealing with debt collectors and credit reporting agencies.


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Old 02-03-2008, 04:34 PM
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Name Change/ New Credit?

Does a legal name change create a new credit file and corresponding SS? Therefore you can create a new credit history/>? Just curious of the implications of this.

I understand COS, so i know that is neither my identiy as organic of the soil, this would be used for commerce purposes only..
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Old 02-03-2008, 04:51 PM
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A legal name change would still be tied to the previous name. Obtaining a new SS number to have a new credit file would be illegal.
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Old 02-03-2008, 05:17 PM
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credit - hypothecation

The credit you speak of is private credit from the Federal Reserve. You acquire this credit rating by endorsing private credit on the backside of your paycheck. There are rumors of bonding securities on the birth certificate - true; but the birth certificate is a suggested legal or full name.

To establish credit without the bonding, chattelizing yourself through first lien by the Treasury on anything your FRNs purchase, would of course be illegal - like Ezrhythm points out. That would include changing from one legal name, like the one on your birth certificate to another without going through the legal process of notifying SSA and other financial institutions.

However you have always had the name your parents gave you. Your true name. And that is not your legal or full name. However it is inadaquate, being that it belongs to the man or woman for a chattel mortgage. That would effectively be mixing the living with the dead.



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Since the hypothetication was first done on the BC to get the bonding in process , is there remedy in effect, or are yous stuck with that legal name if attempted to use in commerce. I could see non-endorsement of FRNs using the USN stamping procress on back of a paycheck in theory and as a sensory node , but it still doesnt clean out the commercial respority of endorsment back to 800 so to speak, unless one traveses the daunting task of bankruptcy in commerce or cherry picking the creditors off one by one, which could take years to wipe out each black marking........ A third option would be just to leave the past in the past, and be more aware of adhesive contracts in the future? What Say Ye, Master Mason, David?
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Old 02-03-2008, 06:35 PM
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remedy in effect

Yes. The remedy in effect is attached - §16 of the Federal Reserve Act.

It has been codified into Title 12 U.S.C. §411 and was revised for the gold seizure in 1933:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/ht...1----000-.html
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It is worth noting that the fealty to the Pope, which you cited for its explicit mention of the Templar abbey in Dover, is the legal basis for the invalidation of the Magna Carta after it was sealed at Runnymede.
During discussion about the Treaty of 1213 and the Magna Charta (1215).

http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/medieval/magframe.htm
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/john1a.html
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Old 02-03-2008, 06:44 PM
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You can still change the name used for free. (happens all the time w/ married and divorced women) Just apply for credit in the new name. And use a different address, new zip code, better yet new state. And there is the possibility of credit using an EIN, or a TIN, as a sole proprietor.

As long as the statements made are true that imho should be considered legal.

but you know its fairly easy to clean up a credit report and establish better ratings.
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changing your name for more credit sounds pretty materialistic to me

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Communism will come regardless. Us little folk along the way need to do what we can to help our families.

The system has so many nicks and cuts to it that if one tries to pay w/ blood, sweat and/or tears the body is ruined. Getting some free cash is a way of overall balance- just to even up a bit.

If people use their powers to get some independence that's good. These FOP/BAR actors apparently want us to be trapped by their false divisions and unjust measures, so why do it their way?
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Old 02-04-2008, 06:19 PM
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There are 3 ways that people create a new credit file. One is to use their same name with different personal information. Another is to use the same personal information with a different first or last name. And last of all, they use an alias name with the same or different personal information. When I speak of personal information I'm talking about a person's birthdate, address etc.

It's up to you to decide which way is best for you. The credit bureau's computer has to match a person's name and personal information with what's stored in it's memory banks or it won't be able to find the person's credit history! Anyone of the 3 variations mentioned in the previous paragraph throws the computer off in it's search for a person's credit history and as a result a - no record found - is reported back to those performing the credit check. A - no record found - means that a new credit file can be compiled on a person based on the name and personal information used in the initial credit check and would belong exclusively to the person desiring to do such! Thus, a new credit file is in the makings!

Just keep reading if you will and I'll show you how easy it is to get a drivers license or State ID card to match the name and personal information a person uses to create his new credit file. And I'll also show you how to establish credit on your new credit file.

Let's say that your name is John Doe and you were born on Jan. 38th, 1492, your social security number is 000-00-0000 and your address is 1234 Credit ave. Florida, Alaska. Now let's say that your credit is bad enough to get you turned down whenever you apply for additional credit and you want to get around this obstacle. If you changed your first name to another that starts with a different letter other than the first letter of your real name, such as Robert Doe instead of John Doe. and used your same personal information, a no record found - would surface during a credit check! If you kept your first name and changed your last name to another one that starts with a different letter other than the first letter of your real last name, such as, John Williams instead of John Doe, and used your same personal information, then a - no record found - will also surface. If you kept your real name, both first and last, along with your real birthdate (birthdate must always stay the same in order to match with the birthdate on your License or ID) and changed everything else in your personal information then a - no record found - would surface also.

With a completely different first and last name or alias you can keep all your original personal information or make up new personal information (remember that your birthdate must always stay the same ) and a - no record found would surface both ways.

If for some unforeseen reason someone else's credit history shows up when trying to create your new credit file it means that you've accidentally chose information that caused the computer to tap into another person's file that has the same name you're using. In the event this happens you'll have to repeat the creation process until a - no record found - shows up. Remember that a - no record found - means that the file is clear, not being used by anyone else and is exclusively yours!
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Sounds like fraud to me.

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