Discharging Debt with Bonds

[KarenM]

David:

Can you give a simple yes / no answer?

Did you spend time in jail because you attempted to discharge a debt with the instrument you posted above? Yes or no?


Second, why do you persist in posting documents with so much information removed as to make it inmpossible to verify their validity? If, as you claim, the lien you posted above was actually filed against an IRS employee, then it is a matter of public record. However, you have removed so much information from it that it is impossible to determine if it is an actual copy of a real document or just something you conjured up with Photoshop.

Until you can prove that document exists somewhere outside your imagination, than anything you say about it is about as valid as was your POMC.

You are posting fictitious information here as if it is factual. You are posting misinformation which will confuse and mislead the other members here who are seeking answers to legitimate question.

[KarenM]

Originally Posted by ThomPaine

Karen,

The bond does exist. A friend of mine created it using all the proper procedures and public laws, etc. He then sent it to the Treasury for acceptance. They did not return it as defective and have had it for almost 3 months, plenty of time. Because it has been accepted and lodged, it IS a negotiable instrument now and can be used to discharge debt. I personally know people who have done this successfully with all sorts of debt and they did not goto court, they are not in jail, etc. because they didnt do anything wrong or illegal.

I said ALL of this at the beginning of the thread. IT WORKS!!

The principles are basic economics, please dont clutter up the thread with your junk and dont be afraid to work on your reading comprehension skills.

Cheers,

Thom

There is no need to return, as defective, a worthless document.

In all likelihood, the document was consigned to the recycling bin the day it arrived.

So far, all you have posted is hearsay regarding what you heard worked for others.

If your "proof" is no more valid than thet, than I warn the other members nopt to rely on it until they see EVIDENCE of something that actually accomlpished something.

A "friend"? "People"? Are you sure it wasn't your niece's friend's mother's hairdresser's son's girlfriend?

[Lawdog]

Originally Posted by Jerry Pitts

Gee Lawpuppy:

Sounds to me like your quoted text of the UCC (Under "a" "1, 2, and 3" shows that when a "court" issues an "order" to pay a fine, they have completed what is known as a "Negotiable Instrument".

Thanks for that Official Input.

Jerry Carlos

Nope! The court is ordering you to pay the fine. A negotiable instrument is a promise (note) or order (check, drawn on a bank) wherein the person signing it (the maker) is bound. The judge signs the order, but you're the one who has to pay the fine or judgment.

Thanks for playing. Drive home safely!

[David Merrill]

Originally Posted by KarenM

David:

Can you give a simple yes / no answer?

Did you spend time in jail because you attempted to discharge a debt with the instrument you posted above? Yes or no?


Second, why do you persist in posting documents with so much information removed as to make it inmpossible to verify their validity? If, as you claim, the lien you posted above was actually filed against an IRS employee, then it is a matter of public record. However, you have removed so much information from it that it is impossible to determine if it is an actual copy of a real document or just something you conjured up with Photoshop.

Until you can prove that document exists somewhere outside your imagination, than anything you say about it is about as valid as was your POMC.

You are posting fictitious information here as if it is factual. You are posting misinformation which will confuse and mislead the other members here who are seeking answers to legitimate question.

Karen;

Actually this is the Internet. Anything you read here is not anything I am culpable about.

But that kind of comes around to you KarenM; who are you? Are you an attorney? Are you registered on a website called Quatloos?


See, that works both ways and doesn't really work at all.

It is not important to me whether people believe that is a real lien against a real IRS employee. It just is. I know that for a fact so I will not spend time trying to convince members here I am telling the truth - especially you KarenM.

And the jailhouse scare tactic got old when I posted on Quatloos. You are a slave to your fears and trying to spread your fears is a bit sickening to decent folk.


Regards,

David Merrill.

[Shoonra]

Garbage and more garbage.

We have here from one message a pretended bond -- with some sort of threat that it cannot be refused because that has something to do with a non-existent bankruptcy.

From DiM we have a pretended Letter of Credit - which does not remotely resemble a real one - also with some claim that it cannot be refused.

Elsewhere DiM has posted in "Bill of Exchange" worth all the money owed the International Bank, the International Monetary Fund and U.N. -- with something he still hasn't explained called Zionism cancellation algorithm -- and it doesn't even come close to resembling a real BoE; and presumably it can't be refused either -- so I suppose that DiM has actually accumulated all the money owed by the WB,IMF, and UN, and he's still living in squalor as a fashion statement.

DiM also misrepresents a US Supreme Court decision to suggest that any rejection of his worthless paper makes his debts disappear anyway. If that were true .... but he's living a fashion statement.

DiM claims that I made some reference about him regarding prison rape. I never suggested he had been raped. I have always believed that he was extremely willing and cooperative.

[David Merrill]

Originally Posted by Shoonra

DiM claims that I made some reference about him regarding prison rape. I never suggested he had been raped. I have always believed that he was extremely willing and cooperative.

Told you he'd get all upset, didn't I?

[Lawdog]

If by "upset" you mean "Shoonra is laughing at me again," then my guess is that you're right.

[mrg]

Originally Posted by ThomPaine

Karen,

That would be "AndyK."

Have you read Jonathan Livingston Seagull lately Andy?

Did you play any part in the sequel?

How about those Federal Rules of Evidence?

How are things over at the Department of Agriculture?

They still getting you your paycheck ok?

[moses7797]

i am not picking sides (because as you can see i have no posts)but how come thom asks a question and he has to prove what he says to be true and instead of getting an answer to his question he gets ridicule and has to prove himself.
Can the people that say its not possible-PROVE-its not possible?or are these just allegations like Thom's about having the bond lodged.if you can prove it then you must be able to search the TD for it,if thats the case then you should be able to give Thom his answer.
Just from seeing the conversation you should be more than proud to prove him wrong.

[Shoonra]

Lawdog: Remember that DiM claimed he had ruined the county prosecutor in revenge for his jail sentence .... y'know, making that man the current Attorney-General of Colorado.

If we keep at it, maybe he'll ruin us the same way. Pretty please.