SUPERIOR COURT SUMMONS! I panicked!

[mrg]

Originally Posted by Lawdog
You're one of the "sovrun citizuns" whose theories have never worked in a court of law.

Again your entire predicate and thesis is nothing more than condescending arrogant attempts at denigration and belittlement.

In this case, your target is obviously far more competent than are either you, or myself.

You are obsessed with your "courts" of necessity and their "game," and your "law" of necessity and its whimsy, to the point where you have, with classical irony, gouged your own eyes out.

It is doubtful you know what a court of law is, much less care, and much less ever been in one, and even more doubtful that any of your own theories would "work" should one be convened that you would be a party to.

All you likely have ever known are but private closed-shop monopoly trade guild BAR wagering casinos, slave markets, and brothels, which you would have people believe are "courts of law."

Your targets attend through entanglement, entrapment, or capture.

YOUR TEACHERS LIED TO YOU.

That is their JOB.

You are likely here only because many people here well know of these conditions, many more are here learning, and, perhaps this chafes, and/or threatens.

Obviously you are, so far, shown to own no original thought as to what constitutes law, so how could one possibly expect you to have any knowledge of courts of law?

You prefer to live in a flimsy house of cards built out of beliefs on a foundation floating on the wind-blown shifting sands of fleeting opinion rather than dwell in a sturdy edifice of substance built on immutable solid bedrock foundation.

That is wagering, and a wagerer is a fool and a scoundrel, and a BAR attorney is a wagerer.

Crime lies in that you actively seek to take others down with you, and the tragedy is that much like a drowning victim you will helplessly sacrifice both yourself and rescuer to the passions of your blind panic, when the winds topple the card castle, and the shifting sands leave your foundation with nothing to hold to, and you are cast into the turbulence of the sea of your own tears.

Likely you are counting on your "here and now boys" life ending without yourself facing the inevitable return on your "investment."

[Lawdog]

Originally Posted by FreeFromContract

LOLOL - You really are a clown! I pointed out your errors and you bitch and moan. Cry me a river.

Why do you need a river? Is there a drought at your trailer park?

[Jerry Pitts]

Originally Posted by Lawdog

Why do you need a river? Is there a drought at your trailer park?

Those two questions are seemingly way off topic... but of course his comment "cry me a river" could also be construed to be off-topic. Point being, don't allow the comments of another to prompt you to the same position of taking the thread way off topic... Just an opinion.

Jerry Carlos

[jngators58]

why are the downloads not working is there something I am doing wrong.

thanks

[mrg]

Originally Posted by jngators58

why are the downloads not working is there something I am doing wrong.

thanks

The downloads don't work.

I do not know why.

It isn't you.

What are you lookoing for?

I may not have it, but someone else may.

[marie]

Hey everyone,

To move back to the thread topic, please...this is what I have chosen:

One. Serve a non-statutory abatement as demandant upon the presiding judge, the DA and the alleged creditor.

Two. Request pertinant information (discovery) via registered mail, from the alleged creditor.

I learned a lot about Fair Credit Reporting and what constitutes a collection action, which is primarily based on consumer ignorance, which third-party interlopers definately use to their advantage.

I do thank all those who have been helpful with sending information and encouragement. I am very grateful.

Linda Marie

[marie]

It has been several months since I've completed this experiment. So here is a quick run down of what occurred.

As Demandant, I caused to be served a Non-statutory Abatement; along with Abandoned Paper (SUMMONS) with Refusal For Cause Without Dishonor and Without Remedy and Recourse To Me" handwritten in red on each and every page. I made three copies and hand served a copy to each of the following Defendants. I took witnesses to the service.

Presiding Superior Court Judge
County Attorney
Collection Agency

The collection agency required service via Registered Mail as they are out of town. My witnesses also noted this action.

The judge and attorney sent the papers to the Superior Court Clerk, she called me asking for the filing fee. I replied that the papers were not to be filed into the case. She then stated that the case is suspended "out of time" and the papers were sent back to the offices of the judge and the county attorney.

I gave each defendent ten days to request an extension of time; with thirty days from the time of service to respond.

After service copies of all documents were posted in three different post offices in three different towns and had witnesses to the fact that the documents were posted.

Each of the defendents defaulted. To date: I've not heard another word.

I hand served Notices of Default to each of the Defendents, Registered Mail to bottom feeder.

I posted Notices of Default at the same post offices and after sufficient time had elapsed, removed all documents...with witnesses, of course.

I have written proof that the so-called creditor had charged off the so-called debt. That action had taken place eighteen months before the bottom feeder collection agency 'picked up' the so-called debt.

Bottom line: There were a lot of errors on the SUMMONS and I refused to reply, in affidavit form, to their allegations....any thing you say, can and will be used against you in a court of law!

This can still go to court...providing the bottom feeder cleans up the paperwork and gets the facts straight. If they come after me again I will slap them with another non-statutory abatement.

I have since learned not to accept most of the mail. Mark out any bar coding on the envelope. The bar code contains name and address information so the envelope can be scanned. I cover the alleged address with a label and write, in red, "Not deliverable as addressed" and return it to sender.

Go to this site and read the articles listed.
http://spiritualeconomicsnow.net/ Mary Croft authored the following article and she has some very interesting things to say about 'debt' remedy. The article title is "Two Completely Different, Separate, Distinctive Forms of Accounting".

She is also featured in a radio interview and this interview may assist many in shifting their perceptions.
http://www.redicecreations.com/radio...ICR-080807.php

Peace be unto all of you,
marie : )

[International American]

Originally Posted by Lawdog

Address me properly and maybe I will answer you.

"Puppydog" isn't going to cut it.

Would Mr. Dog be acceptable? lol

Regards,

IA

[robhalford88]

Originally Posted by Lawdog

Honey, a notary public is NOT an attorney, or a judge. There's no legal reason for them to respond to your "notarized requests." Do you know how easy it is to get a notary commission? In my state, basically anyone over the age of 18 who has no major criminal record, can read and write the English language, and can get two people to vouch for their good character, can get a notary commission. It doesn't take any special education at all.

ALL a notary can do is VERIFY THAT A PERSON WHO SIGNED A DOCUMENT WAS WHO THEY SAID THEY ARE. That means if the notary does not already know you personally, they should ask to see a driver's license, passport, or some other government issued ID with a picture on it. I'm a notary as well as an attorney, and that's how I do it.

A notarized document is simply prima facie evidence that the signer whose name appears on the document really was the person named. It's not conclusive evidence, of course...someone could show a notary a fake ID, or the notary could be in on the scam. But these people who say there's some "magic" in sending a "Notice of Demand" or whatever just because a notary witnessed your signature don't know what the hell they are talking about.

You can't put the bank in default. Only a court can do that.

If you don't owe this debt, talk to a debtor's rights attorney. They love to make creditors miserable. And you can probably find one who will take your case on contingency if you have good grounds for a counter-suit, which means you won't have to pay unless they win something for you.

Good luck.

Interesting. How about Notarial Protests?

[Lawdog]

What about it?

Call it an affidavit, call it a notarial protest, call it whatever you want, but otherwise meaningless gibberish does not acquire some magical power just because you get it notarized.