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Old 04-25-2005, 08:12 AM
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The Credit River Decision is a great case showing the fraudulent nature of the banks. It is too bad that it has been totally ignored. There are crooks, I mean attorneys and judges, that would have us believe that this decision is meritless and bogus. Never mind the evidence, just cover it up and it will go away. Not only are the banksters frauds, but those that protect them as well. I am sickened by those that say they are for truth and continue to perpetuate lies. This is done simply for greed and power. One day, I believe, in the not too distant future, the truth will be known to all and woe to those that have perpertrated the fraud. May YHWH have mercy on them for they know not what they do.
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Thanks for posting. This was enjoyable reading. Again thanks!
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This is the info about this "decision" that I posted a couple of months back:


About the so-called Credit River Case, this is virtually a hoax. In 1969 nutty lawyer Jerome Daly scouted up a Justice of the Peace (not a Judge), Martin (not Victor) Mahoney, and got him to sign a purported court decision that pretends to order the county court not to accept Federal Reserve Notes for filing fees.
As a JP, Mahoney had no legal training and no authority to make such a decision, but Mahoney signed a document with lots of legal citations that had undoubtedly been written by Daly, who then printed it in his private tax avoidance newsletter (and later on the internet).

Even if authentic, a JP's decision has no legal weight as a precedent.

It appears that a real court tumbled to this put-up case by Daly and had tried to stop it. In re Daly (1969) 284 Minn. 567 171 N.W.2d 818. When one of Daly's audience tried to use the "decision" in an argument, the court declared that Mahoney's decision was a nullity because far beyond the jurisdiction of a JP. Zurn v. Northwestern National Bank (1969) 284 Minn. 573, 170 N.W.2d 600; and the "decision" hasn't persuaded other courts either. Brobeck v. Commissioner, Tax Ct Memo 1980-239, affirmed 681 F.2d 804; etc. Jerome Daly himself was suspended from the bar, and later disbarred, for this and similar stunts. Mahoney died before they could do anything to him.
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This is the info about this "decision" that I posted a couple of months back:


About the so-called Credit River Case, this is virtually a hoax. In 1969 nutty lawyer Jerome Daly scouted up a Justice of the Peace (not a Judge), Martin (not Victor) Mahoney, and got him to sign a purported court decision that pretends to order the county court not to accept Federal Reserve Notes for filing fees.
As a JP, Mahoney had no legal training and no authority to make such a decision, but Mahoney signed a document with lots of legal citations that had undoubtedly been written by Daly, who then printed it in his private tax avoidance newsletter (and later on the internet).

Even if authentic, a JP's decision has no legal weight as a precedent.

It appears that a real court tumbled to this put-up case by Daly and had tried to stop it. In re Daly (1969) 284 Minn. 567 171 N.W.2d 818. When one of Daly's audience tried to use the "decision" in an argument, the court declared that Mahoney's decision was a nullity because far beyond the jurisdiction of a JP. Zurn v. Northwestern National Bank (1969) 284 Minn. 573, 170 N.W.2d 600; and the "decision" hasn't persuaded other courts either. Brobeck v. Commissioner, Tax Ct Memo 1980-239, affirmed 681 F.2d 804; etc. Jerome Daly himself was suspended from the bar, and later disbarred, for this and similar stunts. Mahoney died before they could do anything to him.


If you simply appreciate Shoonra's perspective, you will understand she is incorrect.

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Even if authentic, a JP's decision has no legal weight as a precedent.

The Constitution provides for one supreme court, not the Supreme Court for the United States as the highest court. Until a few years ago the Montana Statutes even spoke of the state supreme court in plural. The court formed by proper jurists and a justice of the peace presiding was much higher than any State of Minnesota Supreme Court. The court of the people...


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It is very self-destructive as a sui juris man or woman to relenquish your authority to Shoonra's mythology - regardless of how popular it is.

The more important thing is that Jerome Daly moved back into his home after the Sheriff's sale and the Bank was precluded from filing any appeal because FRNs had been banned as currency by the jury ruling. Pay attention to the wording in the Judgment and Decree; it is truthful wording - the pathetic thing is that Shoonra will not address that; she just spins on about tangential attorney decisions. The murmurings from the lower court that Shoonra is using were subsequent cases where the corporate State Supreme Court disbarred Mahoney or Daly; which is about all they could do to prevent them helping subsequent victims of home foreclosures due to the resident scam.

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Shoonra is good for many simple facts but she will skew and spin things in the Quatloser denial, dissociation from reality and appeasement of the status quo.


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David Merrill.

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