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Old 10-11-2006, 04:01 AM
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Talking Obtaining Your IMF File And District Courts

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What is the correct process for obtaining your IMF File?

What are the 3 Article Courts Called?
Article 1-----
Article 2----
Article 3-----

Sinc there are no Article 3 Courts, would the Federal and Supreme bound by an oath suppose to uphold Article 3 Decisions because of this oath.?You cant invoke your article 3 rights until you tell the Article 1 and 2 courts what to do?

In each district what are the levels of courts.. bottom circuit courts, adminstrative, then federal, then supreme. HOw many courts are there per each district?
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Old 10-11-2006, 05:45 AM
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I will simply address the oaths issue out of experience:

These folks take oaths; getting a certified copy written and into the court record is impossible... (attachment).


Recently I heard about a fellow who prodded the attorney-in-the-black-robe to promise that by coming across the Bar (traffic court) he would not be losing any rights. Simple as that. Finally the attorney promised and then slowly realized for whatever reason this was a bad case to have in his court. He let the matter go for $8.


Appearance is believe it or not, a voluntary arraignment. You have to understand that the hearings are for show; the trial usually happened at the mailbox or on the side of the road.

As for the different kinds of courts and Articles, I think you will get in trouble with the way you asked the question. The gold fringes are meaningful, maybe not exactly admiralty but one thing for certain to pay attention to: Among the United States Codes we find all sorts of things legislated by Congress. Then we get to Title 4 USC - The Flag, and find that is simply an Executive Order by Dwight Eisenhower. The dominions of the President to legislate are by tradition through Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy during emergency or war. The province of the flag belongs to the President. The fringes are a matter of military preference and the military by tradition operates in the international realm (posse commitatus) of admiralty. One fellow broke that mold and formed a jury under a justice of the peace without the scope of banking - the Credit River Money Decision:

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Credit River Money Decision Page 4

And even more recently a fellow was able to hold hearings on the original side of the Tenth Circuit's jurisdiction according to the rules:

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Why do people, even here continue to be baffled? I don't really know. I attribute it to the mathematics... I am out of contract and though people will give me what I do not have, I have no DOB, SSN or birth certificate until I say so. Time and time again, proceedings are stumped until I accept them as some kind of gift or privilege from society in compact. And having access to the federal repository helps too. I think it is probably both factors working in conjunction that gives me a fairly unique perspective.

I am not in support of government bonds as government currency. [March 6, 1933 That defeats all jurisdiction that any government-built court can muster. I find it exciting that Kgod999 has opened up that door recently. In my psychological profiling I am wondering if members here will see how powerful it is to simply bring proof your conviction will be sold by the court en banc and simply refuse to participate - volunteer the prosecutor as fiduciary must pull out his checkbook or go to jail to settle up any jump-the-gun hypothecation on the Chinese' part. Hell, it's not even the Chinese; I hear Merrill-Lynch is busy incorporating these bonds into mutual fund portfolios!

So get after it! Quit injuring yourselves trying to get answers to loaded questions.


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David Merrill.


P.S. I think you should know that even if properly formed under FOIA, a request for your IMF does not need be answered because the Treasury is not governmental. FOIA only applies to government agencies.

Over on Quatloos however they seem to think that you just call and get the IMF, decoded upon request within about 10 days. There are a lot of IRS folks there speaking and so maybe you can do that - I just doubt it would be accurate as far as the BATF attachment (Title 27 enforcement authority) and therefore it is probably not a certified copy of the IMF. Meaning it is not usable testimony in court.

Ask AndyK/Obviousman: http://www.quatloos.com/Tax-Forums/i...ca2c3759d437cd
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Old 10-11-2006, 06:28 PM
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New to the forum, been doing research for years on this type of stuff and came across this place today. Tons of info to sort through, but I wanted to share a quick comment about FOIA. I have used it to retrieve my IMF from infernal revenue and am in the process of having the errors corrected and made part of the permanent record. Have a friend who did the same for himself and spouse through a west coast law firm. Result: IMF was received by all parties who requested it, IMF was ammended and filing status was changed to MFR01, not required to mail or file a return.

Anyone around the Atlanta area besides kgod??

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Old 10-11-2006, 07:08 PM
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Old 10-12-2006, 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ThomPaine
New to the forum, been doing research for years on this type of stuff and came across this place today. Tons of info to sort through, but I wanted to share a quick comment about FOIA. I have used it to retrieve my IMF from infernal revenue and am in the process of having the errors corrected and made part of the permanent record. Have a friend who did the same for himself and spouse through a west coast law firm. Result: IMF was received by all parties who requested it, IMF was ammended and filing status was changed to MFR01, not required to mail or file a return.

Anyone around the Atlanta area besides kgod??

TIA


Thank you ThomPaine;


Please attach an image of a sanitized FOIA request.


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Old 10-12-2006, 10:15 PM
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David,

Do I read the President's words correctly (right page, third para, 1st sentence; "All I can say is, I am very grateful for what the States have done in this emergency."

'They' bailed out the 'US' ? Is that what he was grateful for?

Thanks
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Old 10-13-2006, 09:22 AM
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New to the forum, been doing research for years on this type of stuff and came across this place today. Tons of info to sort through, but I wanted to share a quick comment about FOIA. I have used it to retrieve my IMF from infernal revenue and am in the process of having the errors corrected and made part of the permanent record. Have a friend who did the same for himself and spouse through a west coast law firm. Result: IMF was received by all parties who requested it, IMF was ammended and filing status was changed to MFR01, not required to mail or file a return.

Anyone around the Atlanta area besides kgod??

TIA
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,

Plaintiff-Appellee, No. 05-3047


v. (D. of Kan.)


IVAN G. CARNEY, (D.C. No. 04-CR-10023-MLB)

Defendant-Appellant.

Defendant's argument has centered around an entry in the [IMF], which reads "MFR-01." . . . The court totally rejects the testimony of Turner [fomer IRS agent] and Lynch as without foundation and plainly incredible. The court also rejects defendant's interpretation of the contents of his Individual Master File entries to the effect that the IRS has determined that he is not required to file returns or pay taxes. Although it took two hearings and several hours to get to the point, the court credits Leah Switzgood's testimony that MFR stands for "mail filing requirements" and identifies the type of tax package the IRS annually mails to a taxpayer based on a preceding year's returns.
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Old 10-13-2006, 04:40 PM
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David,

Do I read the President's words correctly (right page, third para, 1st sentence; "All I can say is, I am very grateful for what the States have done in this emergency."

'They' bailed out the 'US' ? Is that what he was grateful for?

Thanks

I don't think so. The speech was made at the Bankers' Holiday and the States were just pledging support through the Governors' Conference that very weekend.

The next paragraph reads:

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The letter that I sent to you took up several matters: First there is the onflicting taxation between Federal and State Governments. Every one of you has been seeking methods to find new sources of taxation. It has been natural and jiman to expect that the Federal Government also should try to find some method of raising revenue.

A second question relates to...


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The court also rejects defendant's interpretation of the contents of his Individual Master File entries to the effect that the IRS has determined that he is not required to file returns or pay taxes.

Dawgwise brings a great point to the forum. Private interpretation of the IMF is no good. So I suggest you grab the 6109(?) Manual to supplement the IRS's decryption as well as pay somebody who does it often like linked in the websites around suijuris.

The heart of the matter in decrypting the IMF is to correct any erroneous linking to BATF activity. Then the IRS can only proceed civil action which can easily be refused for cause after counterclaim in admiralty. If you allow the IRS to proceed criminally you are a fool. Watch out for the PRA garbage*.



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* How are the Springer and Stumpo appeals coming along Dawgwise?
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Old 10-14-2006, 05:50 PM
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David,

Dont have a sanitised copy of the FOIA, but I can probably dig one up without too much effort, its just buried in a filing cabinet somewhere. Private interpretation of the IMF is mostly useless. As with everything else, it has been twisted. You need to get an older IRM, I have a link to one somewhere or pay a GOOD law firm that knows what they are doing. Something else to remember is that TAX court is a CIVIL court, between you and the IRS (a corporation) and not a criminal court. This is no different than traffic court and many of the same techniques and tactics would apply there. Incidentally, I had a lengthy correspondence with a IRS attorney and some higher ups about being a petitioner for a court case, paying a filing fee, coming to a hearing and the like and I refused it all. Several weeks later I received a nice letter from USTC in WDC that all cases were being dropped because they did not have jurisdiction over my income. Not because of some loophole or a form or some weird technicality, THEY DO NOT HAVE JURISDICTION OVER YOU UNLESS YOU GIVE IT TO THEM!!!!!

I have a scan of this letter, but the manage attachement button doesnt work in my browser from some reason. Can email to someone or figure out how to post it if anyone is interested.

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David,

Dont have a sanitised copy of the FOIA, but I can probably dig one up without too much effort, its just buried in a filing cabinet somewhere. Private interpretation of the IMF is mostly useless. As with everything else, it has been twisted. You need to get an older IRM, I have a link to one somewhere or pay a GOOD law firm that knows what they are doing. Something else to remember is that TAX court is a CIVIL court, between you and the IRS (a corporation) and not a criminal court. This is no different than traffic court and many of the same techniques and tactics would apply there. Incidentally, I had a lengthy correspondence with a IRS attorney and some higher ups about being a petitioner for a court case, paying a filing fee, coming to a hearing and the like and I refused it all. Several weeks later I received a nice letter from USTC in WDC that all cases were being dropped because they did not have jurisdiction over my income. Not because of some loophole or a form or some weird technicality, THEY DO NOT HAVE JURISDICTION OVER YOU UNLESS YOU GIVE IT TO THEM!!!!!

I have a scan of this letter, but the manage attachement button doesnt work in my browser from some reason. Can email to someone or figure out how to post it if anyone is interested.

Thom


Scan the images into .jpg or .bmp then call up Start> Accessories> Paint and load the image. Then you can sanitize your address etc but please leave enough to keep the document's points and keep it believable.

You might have to edit in the Advanced mode but below the text field you will find Manage Attachments. That should do you...

It is quite true, if you can clear up matters erroneously relating you to BATF activity, then the civil forum is where you are. Refusal for Cause timely is obviously quite effective there. The Treasury attorneys are no idiots - just morally bereft.



Regards,

David Merrill.


P.S. I have pointed out the decryption must pass muster with Rules of Evidence. Therefore the current IMF decoder manual validated by an IRS agent on the stand with a certified correct IMF would be the best.

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