CRA LETTERS AND PAST DUES AT CC BANKS - Page 3

Jerseee · #21 04-06-2004, 01:01 AM

No problem HB.

Whirlwind,

If you get a business law book. That will help you understand some of these things better. oh and a contract law book as well.

RICKY · #22 04-06-2004, 01:16 AM

JERSEEE,

I'M SO TIRED AND SPACED OUT RIGHT NOW, BUT I WANT TO GET FURTHER WITH THIS, SO IF IT SOUNDS ABSURD THAT'S THE REASON.BUT I DON'T THINK I'M THE ONLY ONE READING THIS THREAD WHO IS STILL CONFUSED ABOUT THE FOLLOWING.....

YOUR QUOTE ABOVE: "...you can offer your exemption which is backed by public policy. Which is your exemption."

I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW EXEMPTION WORKS.& 

YOU WROTE IN A POST ON SEP 25. 2003 ...."Now think about your exemption.& Your exemption is your credit.& Which is unlimitd.& You can grant the use of your credit to anyone, any business or even any government entity.& It is YOUR credit snce there is no lawful money." 

THEN YOU GO ON TO OUTLINE THE SIX ELEMENTS THAT ARE NEEDED TO MAKE AN INSTRUMENT NEGOTIABLE.

CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND HOW MY EXEMPTION IS BACKED BY PUBLIC POLICY?& AM I CLOSE HERE?....

1. HR-192 REMOVES THE BACKING OF THE U.S. CURRENCY AND THEREFORE ALL FRN'S ARE NOTES TO PROMISE TO PAY THE BEARER.& (THIS IS THE PUBLIC POLICY?& AND THEREFORE MY REMEDY?

2. I CAN ISSUE (TENDER)&CREDIT TO AN ENTITY IN THE FORM OF A PROMISSORY NOTE.

3. THE PROMISSORY NOTE CAN BE CONVERTED TO AN ASSET BY THE ENTITY, THEREBY DISCHARGING THE "DEBT".

ANY WHERE NEAR THE PATHWAY?

NOW, IF I TENDER A PROMISSORY NOTE AND DON'T HAVE THE FUNDS CURRENTLY TO BACK IT UP, IS THAT A GOOD THING TO DO?

IN SEARCH OF TRUTH & KNOWLEDGE,

RICKY

Jerseee · #23 04-06-2004, 01:53 AM

Ricky,

It no problem--ask and I will try to make it clearer.
Okay so here we go.....

Have you ever read HJR 192?

have you ever read the constitution?

Another thing that you may want to do is (and it is boring), go back and read about the Presidency of Andrew Jackson and what he did to the banking insdustry.

Even back then the sahreholders of the banking industry were not all Americans (if any).

I know this seems like it is off-track but it isn't. This is leading up to the Federal Reserve and its creation. The idea of the federal reserve is nothing new. America has been at war since its inception and since the betrayal (IMHO) starting with Alexander Hamilton who was pushing for a central banking system. When Thomas Jefferson stated that the states where doing fine managing their own financial affairs. But Washington and Hamilton were homies so, Washington sided with Hamilton. thus a central bank was formed and that was the beginning of the end.

Anyway, How can you pay for something when there is no lawful money? If notes are acceptable then they are the legal tender of the US. Now negotiable insturments are just tools in commerce. But one should learn about their properties and how they interact with public policy. Public Policy is your remedy. Your labor basically is your credit therefore you have unlimited credit. Public policy is also yoru credit or it is like you exemption from anyone demanding payment in any form of currency or specie.

But one should also know about contracts. Because negotiable instruments are contracts too. They are promises to pay. And as you know some contracts can become assests or negotiable instruments. Such as a credit card apllication or a signature loan.

The bit of history I gave you in the beginning is a precursor to the Federal Reserve and the system in place today. However, this banking system and commerce really began rolling in the Early Renonsance period 1400-1600.

that was fun.....

#24 04-06-2004, 02:50 AM

To anyone interested,

I really recommend the video/DVD "The Money Masters - How the International Bankers Gained Control of America."& There is no better way to learn and understand the&history&of money in this country and&central banking in general, in only 3 hours!& It is very well done, in that it captures so succinctly what is so difficult to grasp/teach/understand what has happened to our money. The only drawback to the film is that the narrator has this tendency to keep pointing/shaking his finger every 3rd word to emphasize a point.& No one should dare play drinking games with this video.&

www.themoneymasters.com

-squirrels

#25 04-06-2004, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by RICKY

NOW, IF I TENDER A PROMISSORY NOTE AND DON'T HAVE THE FUNDS CURRENTLY TO BACK IT UP, IS THAT A GOOD THING TO DO?

Thanks, Ricky....

THAT'S the question I've been trying to ask! Geesh. That was simple, right?

Randy&

#26 04-06-2004, 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randy

Quote:

Originally Posted by RICKY

NOW, IF I TENDER A PROMISSORY NOTE AND DON'T HAVE THE FUNDS CURRENTLY TO BACK IT UP, IS THAT A GOOD THING TO DO?

Thanks, Ricky....

THAT'S the question I've been trying to ask! Geesh. That was simple, right?

Randy

You don't have the funds to back up FRN's either. You just have a piece of paper that is worthless (but purports to be worth a "dollar" whatever that is)

There is no difference.

In this website, go to the UCC forum and check out the Negotiable Instruments Thread. Jerseee gives the requirements for a Negotiable instrument.

RICKY · #27 04-07-2004, 10:52 AM

HELLO ALL:

PROFESSOR JERSEEE: YES, I'VE READ HJR-192 SEVERAL TIMES. EACH TIME I READ IT, AFTER LEARNING A LITTLE MORE ABOUT "STUFF", IT CHANGES MEANING FOR ME. ( YOU KNOW, THAT BIT ABOUT 'CHANGE IS THE ONLY CONSTANT')

NO, I HAVE NOT READ THE CONSTITUTION, AT LEAST WITH THE BLACKS IN HAND, AS YOU HAVE TRAINED MONTANA AND OTHERS TO DO. (SEE? SHE'S TRAINING ME TOO!)&IT IS ON MY LIST OF "TO DO'S".

I HAVE BEEN READING MANY HISTORICAL TREATMENTS OF THE RISE OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE BANKING SYSTEM. ACTUALLY I BEGAN MY VENTURE INTO THIS NEW WORLD BY LEARNING ABOUT THE ROTHCHILD FAMILY AND HOW IT BEGAN CONTROLLING MONEY. I'M NOT GOOD ON REMEMBERING THE DATES, ALTHOUGH THEIR DYNASTY PRECEDED THE FORMATION OF OUR UNION.

OKAY NOW. PUBLIC POLICY (BLACKS 7TH ED.) 1. BROADLY, PRINCIPLES AND STANDARDS REGARDED BY THE LEGISLATURE OR BY THE COURTS AS BEING OF FUNDAMENTAL CONCERN TO THE STATE AND THE WHOLE OF SOCIETY. 2. MORE NARROWLY, THE PRINCIPLE THAT A PERSON SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO DO ANYTHING THAT WOULD TEND TO INJURE THE PUBLIC AT LARGE.

SO HOW DOES PUBLIC POLICY BECOME MY EXEMPTION? HJR192? TAKING AWAY GOLD AND SILVER FROM US TO PAY WITH. REPLACING THEM WITH FRN'S AND OTHER NEGOTIABLE INSTRUMENTS? SO I CAN SEND THEM A NEGOTIABLE INSTRUMENT (E.G. CPN), WHICH IS PROVIDED FOR AS "GOOD" FOR PUBLIC POLICY IN HJR-192. IT WILL BE WORDED SO THAT IF THEY VERIFY THE "DEBT", THE NEGOTIABLE INSTRUMENT WILL DISCHARGE IT. IS THIS THE RATIONALE? AND THE REASON I CAN DO THIS IS THAT THERE IS NO WAY THEY CAN VERIFY THE "DEBT", THEREBY NEVER COLLECTING ON THE CPN.

I AM WRITING THIS THE NEXT MORNING AFTER I HAVE WRITTEN ALL THE ABOVE & BELOW&.... I HAVE JUST FINISHED READING THROUGH THE VOD PACKAGE FROM THE DOWNLOADS SECTION AGAIN. THIS TIME IT HAS MORE MEANING, ESPECIALLY SINCE I HAVE THE BLACKS IN HAND. REALLY, WHEN THEY DON'T RESPOND IN HONOR, THIS PACKAGE SETS THE ALLEGED DEBT UP FOR DISCHARGE. AS I STUDY THIS PACKAGE AGAIN THIS MORNING I HAVE A WHOLE NEW FOCUS ON THE PROCESS.& IT'S LIKE A LIGHT HAS COME ON FOR ME.& I THINK THE PART I HAVE BEEN MOST WORRIED ABOUT IS THAT THEY COULD, IN SOME WAY, VERIFY THE DEBT. 

HENRYBOWMAN: THANKS FOR THE DIRECTION TO THE NEGOTIABLE INSTRUMENTS THREAD. IF IT IS JERSEEE'S POST ON SEPT. 25, THAT'S THE ONE I PULLED THE QUOTE FROM WHEN I ASKED MY QUESTION ABOVE. AND I SEE NOW THAT THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A CPN AND A FRN... JUST WHO IS OFFERING THE INSTRUMENT.

SQUIRRELLS: I WILL GO THERE. . CAN I DOWNLOAD OR IS IT A PURCHASE? (RHETORICAL..I'LL FIND OUT WHEN I GET TO THE SITE.)

RANDY: I JUST KEPT THINKING, "WHAT AM I REALLY MISSING HERE?" I KNOW I'M GETTING CLOSER. 

THANKS, YOU GUYS...

RICKY

Jerseee · #28 04-07-2004, 02:01 PM

Ricky,

You've got it. But how they collect on the CPN is not my concern. If they did not disclose to you how they collected on other negotiable instruments then why be concerned about the one you used to discharge the debt?

IMHO, if HJR 192 was not done, then they would have to basically do away with the constitution altogether.

Public Policy is the exemption. If you have no gold or silver to pay your debts--then you are exempt from paying until you can.

It boils down to control and slavery. If you control what is money to all--then you control their lives, children, property, assets, and as you can see--it is getting closer to controlling the water we drink! Next it will be the air we breath, if they can figure it out.

And they can verify the debt but, while attempting to do that--they will expose their fraudulent activities and risk imprisonment. So if this were you--would you verify a debt when asked or just write it off and keep the other sheep from finding out?

RICKY · #29 04-07-2004, 03:06 PM

THANKS AGAIN JERSEEE.& NO BAAAAAAA FOR ME ANY MORE

&!