VOD explanation?

[Anara]

Can someone explain the VOD process? I viewed Jersees files and have a few questions.

1) Why trademark your name, and how does one do it?
2) Can you begin this process without a trademarked name?
3) Where does the promissory note number come from?
4) What exactly is the VOD process in a nutshell?
5) Can this be used against an Abstract of Judgment from a credit card company now pursued by attorneys from another debt company who purchased debt?

Originally Posted by Anara

Can someone explain the VOD process? I viewed Jersees files and have a few questions.

1) Why trademark your name, and how does one do it?
2) Can you begin this process without a trademarked name?
3) Where does the promissory note number come from?
4) What exactly is the VOD process in a nutshell?
5) Can this be used against an Abstract of Judgment from a credit card company now pursued by attorneys from another debt company who purchased debt?

VALIDATION OF DEBT HAS MANY FORMS AND THE SIMPLEST ONE IS A LETTER REQUESTING PROOF OF CLAIM. IF YOU READ PREVIOUS POSTS ON DEBT COLLECTORS YOU'LL DISCOVER THAT THEY DON'T REALLY HAVE STANDING TO SUE YOU IN COURT THEREFORE THE JUDGMENT IS BOGUS.

HAVING SAID THIS, THEY WILL STILL TRY TO COLLECT THROUGH ANY MEANS POSSIBLE BECAUSE THEY ARE NOTHING BUT BOTTOM-FEEDERS.

[Jerseee]

Unfortunately PJT04 didn't answer your questions specifically but did give you insight on the system and their activities.

I will answer your questions best I can and you must do diligent research before venturing in infested fictional waters.

My answers are in BOLD below:

Originally Posted by Anara

Can someone explain the VOD process? I viewed Jersees files and have a few questions.

1) Why trademark your name, and how does one do it?

First, you cannot trademark your name--only your signature as it is a work of art. What I think you mean is the commonlaw copyright. This is a private contract and is used to deal with thieves directly--not the general mass. You accomplish this through public notice or private notice. Public notice is filing it in the county records, posting it on a post office bulletin board, putting it in the legal section of the newspaper. Private notice is through direct contact and do***enting that contact through a disinterested third party.

2) Can you begin this process without a trademarked name?

Yep! You sure can. The copyright/trademark notice is a private contract. I use it as a deterrent for the alleged creditors. Although, I don't get such mail or phone calls any longer.

3) Where does the promissory note number come from?

You. You create it. This is one of the powers you have of being a sovereign. you create all wealth real or imagined. Don't use cookie cutter forms that you fill in the blanks. Be original but use the law and the code to put them on their heals.

4) What exactly is the VOD process in a nutshell?

"If you claim that I owe you--prove your claim. However, you are stealing from me if you cannot prove your claim. Please keep in mind that I am not your witness. So asking me about an alleged debt is useless. Furthermore, if the alleged debt is valid, why are you asking me to validate it by asking me questions about it to prove your case?" This is a VOD in a nutshell.

5) Can this be used against an Abstract of Judgment from a credit card company now pursued by attorneys from another debt company who purchased debt?

Yes. Anyone who accuses you of something, must prove their claim. You don't need to answer their questions against you. This is why I always say, NEVER ARGUE.

[iamfreeru2]

Originally Posted by Jerseee

First, you cannot trademark your name--only your signature as it is a work of art. What I think you mean is the commonlaw copyright.

Names are trademarked all the time. McDonalds is a trademarked name for instance. Why can't one trademark their name? I have seen many common law copyright their ALL CAPS NAME (STRAWMAN), including myself, only to find it was worthless to do so. It makes much more sense to trademark it like many movie stars, corporations, etc., do. I have done a common law trademark on my strawman and must disagree with you on this one Jerseee.

[Jerseee]

Originally Posted by iamfreeru2

Names are trademarked all the time. McDonalds is a trademarked name for instance. Why can't one trademark their name? I have seen many common law copyright their ALL CAPS NAME (STRAWMAN), including myself, only to find it was worthless to do so. It makes much more sense to trademark it like many movie stars, corporations, etc., do. I have done a common law trademark on my strawman and must disagree with you on this one Jerseee.

Iamfree,

This is from Black's 2nd:

Trademark: n. 1. A word, phrase, logo, or other graphic symbol used by a manufacturer or seller to distinguish its product or products from those of others. The main purpose of a trademark is to guarantee a product's genuineness. In effect, the trademark is the commercial substitute for one's signature.

Tradename: 1. A name, style, or symbol used to distinguish a company, partnership, or business (as opposed to a product or service); the name under which a business operates.


Now it is not worthless to do so when used in and along with a contract. I used it to deal with so-called creditors and I don't hear from anyone again. It should be used in its private capacity when someone is trying to profit off the use of your property. JERSEEE is my tradename. In script, Jerseee is my trademark. This is why I have a DBA (a.k.a. business license, Doing Business As). I file it in the public for just such matters. the Tradename/Trademark Notice is the contract itself---my DBA backs up my position as a business entity.

Therefore, if I decide to sue---I have standing. They are using my property commerically to make a profit and not renumerate me in any way. Further, they are damaging my business name through malicious means and have breached the contract.

This is why, I put the postal number in the header and footer of the Tradename/Trademark notice as a contract number. So when I send the notice registered or certified mail, they have to sign and receipt for it and I get notified. Thus, they have accepted the contract and are on notice.


thoughts....

[iamfreeru2]

Originally Posted by Jerseee

Iamfree,

This is from Black's 2nd:

Trademark: n. 1. A word, phrase, logo, or other graphic symbol used by a manufacturer or seller to distinguish its product or products from those of others. The main purpose of a trademark is to guarantee a product's genuineness. In effect, the trademark is the commercial substitute for one's signature.

Tradename: 1. A name, style, or symbol used to distinguish a company, partnership, or business (as opposed to a product or service); the name under which a business operates.


Now it is not worthless to do so when used in and along with a contract. I used it to deal with so-called creditors and I don't hear from anyone again. It should be used in its private capacity when someone is trying to profit off the use of your property. JERSEEE is my tradename. In script, Jerseee is my trademark. This is why I have a DBA (a.k.a. business license, Doing Business As). I file it in the public for just such matters. the Tradename/Trademark Notice is the contract itself---my DBA backs up my position as a business entity.

Therefore, if I decide to sue---I have standing. They are using my property commerically to make a profit and not renumerate me in any way. Further, they are damaging my business name through malicious means and have breached the contract.

This is why, I put the postal number in the header and footer of the Tradename/Trademark notice as a contract number. So when I send the notice registered or certified mail, they have to sign and receipt for it and I get notified. Thus, they have accepted the contract and are on notice.


thoughts....

I am in full agreement with you here. I misunderstood what you were saying and I now it is clear. Thank you for clarifying for me. I no longer use copyrights, only tradmark/tradename and my UCC-1 so states the debtor is "DOE, JOHN HENRY, ORGANIZATION/TRADE MARK/ TRADE NAME-DEBTOR. Copyrights are, in my opinion, useless and we should be using trade marks/trade names instead.

[Jerseee]

Iamfree,

I think we should use whatever works. even though I do not agree with UCC redemption--I still refer folks to you or others who know how to make it work for themselves.

There are no absolute remedies in this battle for personal freedom. Different enemies run from different things. Some run from the copyright and others run from the UCC (if its constructed properly).

Remedy is not in a process or in do***ents--remedy lies within one's self. Either one wants to be free or likes the idea of being free. Execution and courgae to move forward is the key.

[iamfreeru2]

Originally Posted by Jerseee

Iamfree,

I think we should use whatever works. even though I do not agree with UCC redemption--I still refer folks to you or others who know how to make it work for themselves.

There are no absolute remedies in this battle for personal freedom. Different enemies run from different things. Some run from the copyright and others run from the UCC (if its constructed properly).

Remedy is not in a process or in do***ents--remedy lies within one's self. Either one wants to be free or likes the idea of being free. Execution and courgae to move forward is the key.

You have no argument from me. I agree that remedy is not in paperwork. One can do all the paperwork one wants to, but does not mean didly squat unless you know who you are and how to use that paperwork. If you do not know who you are no amount of paperwork in the world is going to save your butt. I am also in agreement that we should use what works. Although I use redemption, that is not all I use. What I do believe is that if something works we need to share and work together as a team and quit shooting ourselves. We need to be united and quit calling what each of us uses garbage There is good in every process and that is what we need to draw from. If we cannot work together we will never make any progress and we will always be stuck in the mud. I believe you will agree with me on that. One thing I can say for the other side is they are together and work as a team which is exactly what all of us should be doing, but we are not.

[Jerseee]

Originally Posted by iamfreeru2

You have no argument from me. I agree that remedy is not in paperwork. One can do all the paperwork one wants to, but does not mean didly squat unless you know who you are and how to use that paperwork. If you do not know who you are no amount of paperwork in the world is going to save your butt. I am also in agreement that we should use what works. Although I use redemption, that is not all I use. What I do believe is that if something works we need to share and work together as a team and quit shooting ourselves. We need to be united and quit calling what each of us uses garbage There is good in every process and that is what we need to draw from. If we cannot work together we will never make any progress and we will always be stuck in the mud. I believe you will agree with me on that. One thing I can say for the other side is they are together and work as a team which is exactly what all of us should be doing, but we are not.

Indeed IAMFREE. However, there is team work going on, just look at our success stories section. Just as you feel that there is no team work, I feel that UCC Redemption is not an effective tool and it leaves folks hanging. Just because I feel a certain way about something--does not infer that there is no team work. Just as you have stated that there is no team work, you voiced your opinions as well. Regardless of our personal opinions, the success stories forum say otherwise.

So, a trademark/tradename (used properly and not for vengeance) is a handy dandy tool to have. However, study, courage, and due diligence are the necessary tools to have when doing any do***ents that are used.

I think the deebates here is one of levels. I personally like the Redemption, which though i have not yet completed have studied on for some time. It give a complete philosophy regarding one's legal position. Acomplete philosophy might be the beggining of one's process of sovereignty or at the end of accomplishing many "things that work". I dont think that the sovereign status of any individual is guaranteed by any method or idea except that it appeals to their understanding or cir***stances and is therefore in that sense "immediate" or "accessible" to them. Not all of us, as open minded as we may be will either need to understand many different types of processes or beable to understand certain types of processes. Once a method is identified I feel it is important to recognize it as a method and if it does not appeal, simply don't address it. That is of course the basis of motivation for some of us in beggining this process in the first place... We have no response to that which makes no sense, like theft, hollow money, vicitmless crimes, etc., so we set out to make our own path using every available tool to establish our rightly free and true position as sovereigns. How did we find these tools? We were attracted to them based on the type of person we are. So it is good and useful to recognize each method and idea as someone's personal process or success story. Also, take care to leave your options open. If we are not closing doors we may be in fact opening many new doors for ourselves or others. You may come back to an idea that you only heard in passing at a later time or need a tool that someone else has. Obviously I wish to encourage this forum to maintain the broadest and most varied character that it can, because it will not only be of greater value to me but also of greater joy. Thanks for all the useful Tools!