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Old 05-17-2004, 01:54 PM
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Anybody know what a TT&L account is?

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Old 05-18-2004, 01:24 PM
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Anybody know what a TT&L account is?
I believe that is a Treasury Trust & Loan account. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. On some of the BOE'S I've seen the department that handles the TT&L accounts is given instructions as to how to process the Preauthorized Transfer electronically. The instructions read like this:


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Deposit the credits in your customer's account, with a hold during the processing time. The department that handles the TT&L account for the bank must process this preauthorized transfer electronically. It is a prepaid exchange item that must be processed through FEDWire directly to the Department of the Treasury. Drawer's private asset account is the pass-through to the approval of the use of the drawer's exemption. This is an accrual entry. No other approval is required to honor this preauthorized transfer. If you do not obtain evidence of the Trustee's dishonor of this instrument within fifteen(15) days, release the hold on the credits, making them available to your customer. If you do obtain evidence of the Trustee's dishonor, please notify your customer immediately. If there are any processing fees associated with this exchange you may direct-bill drawer for any such fees.


I don't know if they pay any attention to these instructions or not. I think this is the information you want. I'm new to this process, but I know I've seen these instructions either on the BOE or accompanying it.
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Old 05-19-2004, 02:40 PM
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Andrew, thanks!

I heard a lady ask Winston Shrout if she could purchase a vehicle with this, and he said yes if the dealer has a TT&L account. Interesting!
BTW, i'm kinda new myself.

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Winston also said you must first have a firm offer of credit from the dealerships bank before trying to do this! It has to be a debt you owe!!! He also said if you don't know what you are doing, YOU WILL GO TO JAIL! You better know all the dynamics of how to proceed in this endeavor because what can go wrong will go wrong!!!



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Dashboy,



I've been posting that same message to people who keep trying to use this method--until my fingers are tired. I cannot fathom why anyone would use any of the redemption stuff when there are laws that support what we are trying to accomplish.



It is a real mind bender.



As I have stated before, I do not promote these tactics for that main reason--JAIL and RUIN. It is not to say that it does not work but "what can go wrong will go wrong".
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Dashboy,

A Letter of Credit might be needed if you wanted to buy something outright with a BoE, but I don't think it's needed to extinguish a debt if the BoE is drawn on the UCC Contract Trust Account at the Treasury. Not 100% sure, though. Jerseee is right: BE CAREFUL. Big Brother's minions will jump at the chance to nail you if you make a mistake. This problem has unfortunately been exacerbated by quick-fix-seeking people submitting junk paperwork to various agencies and misusing these instruments.
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Andrew,

I've heard TTL = Treasury <u>Tax</u> & Loan
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