Banks, Collectors, and CRAs Discuss the elimationa of secured and unsecured "debt", as well as tactics for dealing with debt collectors and credit reporting agencies.


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Old 12-05-2005, 11:07 AM
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Patriot BANK non FED

I have set up a LEGAL bank that can issue notes..These notes are Legal tender...
MY purpose is to replace the need for FRNS.the good part is you dont need Silver check out this Bank athttp://www.inyourface.tv
Klik on TIME IS MONEY
its taken me 10 years of hammering out the legal issues but now its ready to go...we can put the FEd reserve out of biz for good Amen
Quit using their money we are in bondage to those who issue the currency
we now have the means methods and the sheer numbers of educated persons to force the FED to disband.Please quit using fed notes.
My only reason for doing this is to liberate the country
my true treasure is in heaven

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Old 12-05-2005, 01:09 PM
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A bank need not be attached to the Federal Reserve System, but it must comply with state banking laws in every state. Yours would not be the first attempt to set up a purported bank without complying with the state banking laws. Last instance I heard of was a bunch who set up a purported bank on an Indian reservation, claiming that whatever they did on the rez was somehow invisible to law enforcement; some of those "bankers" must be coming up for parole soon.

Perhaps you should consult with a lawyer familiar with banking laws before you cook your goose.
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Old 12-05-2005, 01:33 PM
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Been there done that

I have already done all of the legals
this bank issues legal tender instruments.Its already a matter of record that this type of currency is 100% legal
go to the links page on Time Is Money site for dozens of examples of this being done all over the country....Ithaca Hours is a prime example...
The reference you made to Rez bankers is not a fair comparison
I just saw this link on this very forum about what this thread is about...
http://www.lawresearchgroup.com/cart...ctid=155&cat=1

PS I have never seen the above book until today..It just proves my point is all

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Old 12-05-2005, 07:14 PM
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Ithica Hours

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The following website addresses private currency well and has been quite successful thus far. A far better notion than NORFED and the like, at least in my opinion.

Ithaca Hours: http://ithacahours.org

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Old 12-05-2005, 09:56 PM
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I have already done all of the legals

Not quite the same as saying that you've consulted a lawyer, but I'll assume that's what you meant. If so, that lawyer was a fool. Your website says that the Coinage Act of 1792 is still in full force. Not a bit of it.

Every section of the 1792 Act was amended and replaced, so that by 1872, when the Revised Statutes were compiled, the only remaining fragment of the original Act was section 20, the one about decimal coinage. That one surviving section was completely replaced in 1982 by a similar section, which deliberately dropped the phrase "money of account" because it had no legal significance, and put the words "United States money" in its place (and also removed the last half-sentence about all the accounting having to use that decimal system - evidently no longer considered necessary).

Your lawyer hasn't explained the concept of "legal tender" to you. Ithica scrip isn't legal tender. I cannot insist anyone accept it for payment, and if I take Ithica scrip to California, or anywhere far from Ithica, the only way I can make use of it is if it's on soft absorbent paper.
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Old 12-05-2005, 10:51 PM
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Agreed

I agree with Shoonra. The people involved with the Ithaca Hours project will tell you just as he stated above i.e. the currency is not legal tender. It is a private currency ONLY and thus is only to be accepted upon mutual agreement by and between two consenting parties.

It is an alternative at best, but certainly not a replacement by any means.

In addition, it should be noted that the book "How to Create Currencies for Local Communities" by Hartford Van Dyke specifically states that the currency(ies), both the creation and use thereof, are mere "alternatives" to Federal Reserve Notes and further, the author makes no reference anywhere in the book that such is legal tender.


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Old 12-06-2005, 12:40 AM
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consider

The coinage act was repealed.
by the same hucksters who gave us the 16th amendment.
and also gave us Birth certificates etc.This same bunch took the gold standard away from us canceled the constitution called us all 14th amendment citizens.etc..Who am I to trust these persons? and just cause the fat cat legislooters passed something and printed it does it mean its reality?
I have tried to pay for things withU.S silver coins only to be told by numerous clerks and or store managers We dont accept that and I have taken silver certificates into banks only to be told they are non negoitable and no longer Legal Tender.. I guess it all boils down to do I try myself to effect change or do I just accept statutory law and join up with the United Nations world government..Just because they have the apperance of substance
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Old 12-06-2005, 04:30 AM
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You were misinformed. Silver certificates are still legal tender .... but they cannot be redeemed in silver; you can still spend a silver certificate dollar bill for one dollar's worth of merchandise (but I'll bet you can more at a coin collector shop).

By the way, the gold standard was in operation in the US for only a short time - about 20 years.
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Old 12-06-2005, 07:50 AM
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The coinage act was repealed.
by the same hucksters who gave us the 16th amendment.
and also gave us Birth certificates etc.This same bunch took the gold standard away from us canceled the constitution called us all 14th amendment citizens.etc..Who am I to trust these persons? and just cause the fat cat legislooters passed something and printed it does it mean its reality?
I have tried to pay for things withU.S silver coins only to be told by numerous clerks and or store managers We dont accept that and I have taken silver certificates into banks only to be told they are non negoitable and no longer Legal Tender.. I guess it all boils down to do I try myself to effect change or do I just accept statutory law and join up with the United Nations world government..Just because they have the apperance of substance
Yep! I know what you mean. Did you ever wonder why all this remedy change all of the sudden.
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Old 12-06-2005, 08:51 PM
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Pardon me

I did not wish to create a lot of endless debate on semantics
I merely was trying to offer a solution to FRNS
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