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Old 01-03-2006, 07:06 PM
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why didnt Pres Wilson hve that man arrested for treason?

Because Wilson was for the plan. Maybe under morelike the influence of Col. House. That is what some of the Internet reports about House sound like. Just the same I do not really care if the words are from House or Wilson because exactly that. If they came from House President Wilson was obligated to at least dismiss him for proposing such a plan.

Or maybe the plan was not against the law. They set a supersedeas bond with HJR - 192. So all that gold is in theory awaiting withdrawal when the fractionalization fails. And it will fail. That is what I am saying with the other thread:

http://www.suijuris.net/forum/showthread.php?p=58099
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Old 01-03-2006, 07:13 PM
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Old 01-04-2006, 05:54 AM
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Just trying to get back to my original question.


James:

Have you presented such information to a bank "manager" and successfully opened an account?

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Who do you think that Bush and crew are working for, the People, themselves, or others?

Well, as regards to the President, the Lord's work shall be done regardless.

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Old 01-04-2006, 07:33 AM
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Over the last two years I have encounter the infamous 'House-Wilson' exchange with minor variations.

Researched quite a bit about House. Have several biographies (unread) on Wilson. Have 'index skimmed' them to cross check House info. There is something to the Irishman who was Wilson's personal/political secretary/advisor and their final hours attempt for reconciliation.

Started to read House's novel 'Phillip Dru'......could NOT do more than a few pages. Considering all of House's talents, WRITING was not one of them. NO ONE will ever convince me House wrote the subject interchange.

It was posted that perhaps it was Wilson that wrote the letter to House. That is possible, if one dismisses from their mind that Wilson was once president of Princeton (?) and had extraordinary success moving from the presidency of a major university to CAPTURING the party nomination for President of USA, Inc and continuing on to win.

Could any successful snake in the grass politician be so feloniously STUPID as to write that letter for posterity???

The educational level of the PAYtriot sites I repeatedly downloaded that letter from - and it's modifications - was such that I assumed they WANTED to believe 'The Incarnation of Satan' (my German born grandmother's name for Wilson) could be so imperious as to disdain future scrutiny.

Had Wilson sent this letter to House it would be in House's personal paper at a university now under control of an executor.

Indeed, if David Merrill found a 'page number' (forgive me David Merrill if I have mis-speed read the last two and half days of postings on two sites) that book would be one of the most valuable books in America. That it might be out of print would be circumvented in the same manner the conservative think tank/organization is keeping that double dreck novel 'Phillip Dru' still alive.

There were no mp3's; no digital recorders, no tape recorders, no WIRE recorders; does anyone suppose a techie came in and set up a wax based phonographic record recorder to take down this communication VERBATIM??

Oh, please - lay it on me!!! How and WHY was this memo saved? Perhaps for W B Griffin(?) silent film epic??

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Old 01-04-2006, 08:24 PM
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You wrote in your first post that “I once viewed a document nicely outlining some friendly cites to present to the banking official whom denies a new account without SSN... can't seem to locate it now, anyone help?”
I thought my post would help in that regard.

In regards to your question, “Have you presented such information to a bank "manager" and successfully opened an account?,” the answer would be a terse no.

However, I have a friend in Florida-State, whom I haven’t talked with in a few years, that a few years ago he and his daughter opened an account at a bank with all nines in lieu of a social security-number with no problem according to him.

I opened a bank-account with the phrase, without prejudice, above the social security-number and above my signature. Checks are signed with the phrase, without prejudice above my signature.

Requiring identification before opening an account is simply a matter of policy, which the bank is capable of revising. There is no harm in attempting to open a bank-account without giving a social security-number. I believe the Amish, who don’t participate in the social security-system, have bank-accounts. Just adapt and overcome. If at first you don’t succeed, try again. What may work at one bank, may or may not work at another. Some will, some want, so what.
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Old 01-04-2006, 09:36 PM
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To the original post, I would counter:

Why would anyone want to keep fake money in an account at a bank?

I don't see the logic in it.

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Old 01-04-2006, 09:37 PM
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To the original post, I would counter:

Why would anyone want to keep fake money in an account at a bank?

I don't see the logic in it.

Henry Franklin

P.S. I think the quote is "hor****" (I got to use my word.)
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Old 01-04-2006, 10:26 PM
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Over the last two years I have encounter the infamous 'House-Wilson' exchange with minor variations.

Researched quite a bit about House. Have several biographies (unread) on Wilson. Have 'index skimmed' them to cross check House info. There is something to the Irishman who was Wilson's personal/political secretary/advisor and their final hours attempt for reconciliation.

Started to read House's novel 'Phillip Dru'......could NOT do more than a few pages. Considering all of House's talents, WRITING was not one of them. NO ONE will ever convince me House wrote the subject interchange.

It was posted that perhaps it was Wilson that wrote the letter to House. That is possible, if one dismisses from their mind that Wilson was once president of Princeton (?) and had extraordinary success moving from the presidency of a major university to CAPTURING the party nomination for President of USA, Inc and continuing on to win.

Could any successful snake in the grass politician be so feloniously STUPID as to write that letter for posterity???

The educational level of the PAYtriot sites I repeatedly downloaded that letter from - and it's modifications - was such that I assumed they WANTED to believe 'The Incarnation of Satan' (my German born grandmother's name for Wilson) could be so imperious as to disdain future scrutiny.

Had Wilson sent this letter to House it would be in House's personal paper at a university now under control of an executor.

Indeed, if David Merrill found a 'page number' (forgive me David Merrill if I have mis-speed read the last two and half days of postings on two sites) that book would be one of the most valuable books in America. That it might be out of print would be circumvented in the same manner the conservative think tank/organization is keeping that double dreck novel 'Phillip Dru' still alive.

There were no mp3's; no digital recorders, no tape recorders, no WIRE recorders; does anyone suppose a techie came in and set up a wax based phonographic record recorder to take down this communication VERBATIM??

Oh, please - lay it on me!!! How and WHY was this memo saved? Perhaps for W B Griffin(?) silent film epic??

Unbelieving in Montana

George Alexander

Wilson won the office by a three way split, with Teddy being brought in, ala Perot, as the "Bull Moose Party" canidate. "Strangely" it all ended with the same percentage points of votes in 1912 as it did in 1992. Wilson like Clinton won by a 39% majority. Wilson was no dope, he was just a darwinian so******t that believed in an autocratic dictatorship, like that found on a page right out of the old "Plato's Republic" ilk. He was also a horndog and was probably susceptible to blackmail and collusion. And he may have had enuff "royal" blood in his family tree that he was gonna "win" no matter what? As to the memo who knows? House was an active agent/promoter of rothchild/rhodes/shaw fabianism and knew who buttered his bread. He was a willing accomplice and dupe(it had made his father,Thomas a multi-millionare running war material from england to the confedercy, past northern navel blockades, during the civil war. He also, an agent of the rothchilds, like father,like son?). As for the Philip Dru book, whether he wrote it or not, it certainly laid out the program, well written or not. Touching on the occult. House for sure was a mason and from a narritive I read some years ago, he displayed an intensity that had an almost hypnotic effect on people he came in contact with, some were replused by him as they thought him to be "eerie". Regardless he was a player that helped to set in motion many of the circumstances that have bound and ensnared generations since this clown turned in to worm food. That is a FACT!
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Old 01-04-2006, 10:40 PM
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If you google for it, you will find some examples, I found one example several years ago and I found it again, here:

http://www.greaterthings.com/News/Vi...s/bank_ssn.htm

I think that one has been there since a long time ago, specifically before nine eleven, so even if it worked back then chances are it may not work anymore.

Also they may ask for DLs in lieu of SSN but most likely they can track the SSN via the DL or other databases where the SSN might be already.

I once asked at a bank if someone from another country would like to open an account with them, how would they proceed to do it, since they would not have a SSN, they told me they could do it, I asked them if they would need to get a TIN from the IRS and they said that would not be necessary, they also mentioned they would need a couple of reference letters from financial institutions from the original country of the man that wanted to open the account. I just asked for kicks, I wanted to hear if it was possible, so apparently it is but they would require valid IDs and financial references.

I found this other one:

http://www.befreetech.com/slave_number_free.htm

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