LIEN REMOVAL

[Jerseee]

I've read most of this thread and there is one remaining key component that has not been given.



Verify the debt.



This must be done before talking about claims and payment.



"If for some cosmic reason they can verify the debt--use your remedy". Let them break the law in court and make the judge do his job.

[Ice]

hehehehe



It always boils down to "verification" and "proof of authority".



Ice

[re-ality]

Thanks for the clarification.

[unknownelement]

Ok, this is an old thread, but still very pertinent, no?

I have one question... if the Notice of Lien was originally filed in another state, can one still use the UCC-3 to remove it? It sounds as though it may be a little more difficult if one cannot file that paperwork in person.

Also, if one lives in another state now, and has been levied in that state, where should one commence the paper trail? Is the Notice of Lien now in the new state, or only the Notice of Levy? It seems that if the Notice of Lien is successfully removed, the Notice of Levy becomes irrelevent...

And one more question... if the Notice of Levy is served on a bank account with no money in it, what kind of time frame are we looking at until they try to serve a Notice of Levy again?

Any thoughts or experiences?

[Beaver]

I'm wondering how can I apply this in Canada. Maintenance Enforcement (ME) is forcing me to pay my bf debt by putting a lien my house (my name, I own it).

To make it short I tendered a negotiable instrument to satisfy my bf's debt (not my own debt) so they can release my house.

ME refused to acknowledge the negotiable instrument and keeps on charging future child support and interest on behalf of my bf to my property.

Sound ridiculous but it is true. Just wondering how can I get rid of the lien and not pay the debt that does not belong to me.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

[charlesa6]

Beaver, welcome to the suijuris forum. Send them VOD to proof their claim upon relief can be granted. If the debt is not belong to you, and you have proof to back it up then what are you waiting on. Sue them for punitive damages, and remove the lien pronto.

[David Merrill]

I got to looking at the bottom of the thread at related threads... This thread is much more succinct to the UCC-11 than the other thread

http://www.suijuris.net/forum/taxati...l-lien-32.html

and it looks like nobody had discovered the Uniform Act. I am picking this thread up for discussion.

Originally Posted by RICKY

HI ALL:



LUCY HAS RECIEVED NOTICE OF LIENS FROM THE IRS. I RECENTLY GOT THE UCC-11 AT THE STATE LEVEL FOR LUCY. THE DOCUMENT SHOWED NOIRS LIENS PLACED ON THE TWO PROPERTIES WE OWN. WHEN I WENT TO THE COUNTY OFFICES THEY SHOWED THE LIENS PLACED AGAINST THEM. WHEN I REQUESTED REASON FOR THAT I WAS TOLD BY THE CLERK THAT THE MECHANICS LIENS ARE ALL FILED AT THE STATE LEVEL AND THE IRS LIENS ARE FILED AT THE COUNTY LEVEL. AT THAT POINT I LEFT DECIDING I NEEDED TO DO A LITTLE MORE STUDY.



I HAVE A COPY OF THE TAX TRUTH NEWSLETTER WITH THE THE MR. KINNEY STORY - "REMOVING IRS NOTICES OF LIEN WITH UCC-3 FORM."



WOULD ANYONE HAVE KNOWLEDGE IF THIS WILL BE A GOOD PATH TO FOLLOW?



THANKS,

RICKY

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uniform/vol7.html#fedln
Uniform Federal Tax Lien Act

WHEN I REQUESTED REASON FOR THAT I WAS TOLD BY THE CLERK THAT THE MECHANICS LIENS ARE ALL FILED AT THE STATE LEVEL AND THE IRS LIENS ARE FILED AT THE COUNTY LEVEL.

More accurately personal NFTLs are filed with the secretary of state while real property NFTLs are filed with the county clerk and recorder. [The names of these officials may differ in different states but the clerk informed Ricky correctly.]

There is a proper method of forming a complaint in county court defined by statute. I will look into the specifics for the State of Colorado. It defines how to form an Order to Show Cause. Ricky had discovered the NFTL was misfiled at the county level. That misconduct of the county clerk and recorder cost him dearly. It is against statute for the clerk and recorder to have done that and that removes the clerk from governmental immunity upon failure to show cause.

It saddens me that I had not noticed this thread while it was happening. We might have had a success story.




Regards,

David Merrill.