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Old 09-24-2004, 02:13 AM
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[color=black][b]Vanton, thank you for having the integrity to post such fine materials in the public domain on your website & in this forum. It is such a relief to see those equipped that aren't such mercenaries. I have been trying to persuade a few of my notary friends/acquaintances for a while regarding protests, but it seems that here in Florida, they are keeping what the exact duties of a notary are on lockdown from them.
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I just read this whole thread, and I think that "The Money Matrix" in the archives should be required reading for people new to all this kind of stuff. I had already read up on the history of the Federal Reserve long before coming here and know what "Money" is. I can see how it would be confusing for new people. People have to realize that "Federal reserve notes" are a promise to pay, like ANY other promise to pay. They are redeemable for NOTHING! In fact, the only value they have, is the hope that someone else will accept them to discharge a debt, a.k.a. Buy Something.
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PJT04 - From the public notary perspective - each notarial protest I have conducted has been successfully completed with the CD and Notary Notes being issued. As of this date, I have not had a company respond to any of the notices I have sent out. Also, I have yet to be called in on a UPL Violation or been called to testify.



As far as the success of the individual in having their debt extinguished, I can't say because my responsibility ends once the CD and Notary Notes are issued.



The documents I have handled have primarily been through the redeemption programs. There are some out there I will not handle because folks don't know what they are doing, don't understand or have a clue to the mechanics of what they are doing and are going into it as a get rich quick scheme. I have conducted protests on IRS and on credit card companies. I have not conducted protests on any Mortgage Eliminations.



I have certain requirements of items that need to be in the paperwork when I receive it for my protection as well as the client. If these requirements are not in the paperwork then I will not conduct the protest. This is why in my earlier post I stated that the only paper that can be protested in this country is foreign and the individual has to state in their affidavit to me what is making the paper foreign. Understand, when I am conducting the protest, I am acting as your agent and I can sink your ship in a hurry with one error or mistake.



I am aware of HRJ192 and still need to do more studying on it.



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http://www.flsenate.gov/Statutes/ind...%2D%3EPart%20V



This is the link into Florida Statutes Title 39 Chapt 673 Section 673.5051 is where it is stated that a notary in Florida can conduct notarial protests. I did an overview regarding the protest this last Fall at a Florida Mobile Notary Association class.



In any state, it will be difficult to find a notary that will conduct the protests because everyone is scared away from it with cautions as in the California handbook, DON'T DO THIS UNLESS YOU ARE TRAINED, or like Florida where it isn't even addressed in the handbook anywhere.



On the www.notaryprotest.com website is a pdf file listing out the state statute/code etc regarding this as a duty of the notary or a U.S. Consular. Remember, in most countries except the U.S. notaries are generally legal people barristers, solicitors with a legal education. We are the only country that does not have that requirement on the notaries. I'll say the exceptions to the rule are the Civil Law Notaries which some states have and some don't, the requirement is that they are an attorney (BAR card carriers) with the exception of Louisianna. All Louisianna Notaries are Civil Law Notaries which gives them the authority to draw papers. As a Common Law Notary, I am not authorized or allowed to draw documents as a non-attorney.



This is why when I conduct a protest, the individual requesting the protest has the joy of drawing all the paper and sending it to me ready to go. If I drew the paper then the BAR would come in and charge me with UPL violations and toss the CD and Notary Notes out of court.

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What is your 2 cents on this topic then please.



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[color=black][b]Vanton, it seems like some notaries are hesitant to try it because they think it only applies to negotiable instruments and not other situations.
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It does apply to negotiable instruments only. What other type of situation are you trying to do a protest on? I may be able to help you.
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[color=black][b]I appreciate your response, Vanton. I did look up the link you provided in our good 'ol Florida Code . I've been requesting documentation from the IRS regarding Venue & Jurisdiction over Florida State Citizens & have either received no response or insufficient documentation. I do not intend on relinquishing my sovereignty by keeping the fraud going by trying to tender anything through my STRAWMAN as a transmitting utility because the facts remain that they can only lawfully operate Title 26 in the Federal Zone of which I am not.

I do understand the argument that the STRAWMAN is the one that is the U.S. Citizen.

My curiosity is whether or not I can default them with a certificate of dishonor by their non-response &/or insufficient documentation to my requests for documents that would show my liability as Sui Juris to their white collar con game.
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I'm a new guy to this web site, and since I haven't gotten into any serious credit yet, I don't quite understand why you would contest something on your credit report, unless there was some kind of identity theft---i.e. there were things on there that shouldn't be.



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I'm not sure exactly what your issue is with the IRS. The first thought that runs through my head if you are asking for a document production is to do a FOIA request to the appropriate District Office.



If they have gone in and confiscated or attempting to confiscate your property (money, home, etc) then yes you most certainly can do a notorial protest on them. You cannot default them with a CD you must have the notary issue the CD and notary notes. With that in hand, then you can move forward.
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Do a FOIA request to the appropriate District Office.
[color=black][b]I've done tons of those. More specifically, those are to be done to the Disclosure Office when requesting docs.
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You cannot default them with a CD you must have the notary issue the CD and notary notes. With that in hand, then you can move forward.
[color=black][b]Now that is interesting, I've never heard of that.

Is the logic behind it that an officer of the court such as a notary has to intervene to settle the matter in which the citizen has no power to enforce?

Would I be the one drafting the docs & the notary then issuing the CD's?

Also, how does a notice for the seizure of my property fit into the definition of a negotiable instrument which are the only things an NP can be conducted upon?

Thanks again for hangin w/ the SJ's, Vanton
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