Banks, Collectors, and CRAs Discuss the elimationa of secured and unsecured "debt", as well as tactics for dealing with debt collectors and credit reporting agencies.


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Old 02-17-2005, 01:03 PM
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Definitely some Gems for when I get into the CC game.

I may be able to use that w/the IRS RRA section saying they are subject to FDCPA.

The thing I am focusing on is the actual secret default itself.

They default you in secret without telling you, so everything you say can "legally" be declared "frivolous".

By showing that you have notoriously recorded your default on them in the public & showing that they defaulted you w/o telling you that you were at risk of it; or that they actually were going to or even did it ex post facto,
gives you the grounds to demand they set aside the non-notorious default
so that you can get back to the liability issue w/o it being deemed "frivolous".

That is why I am looking for some ammo of secret default vs. notorious default


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Old 02-17-2005, 01:06 PM
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Thus a debt is incurred and passed on to the U.S. citizen (STRAWMAN). A debt that can never be repaid by the Strawman. HJR 192 is your remedy for all of this corruption.
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This is exactly what sadie was talking about in the begining of the post. if JON DOE (STRAWMAN/FIDUCIARY) is different from Jon Doe (flesh and blood person), then surrender the account back to the bank since it does not belong to you and you no longer want to be responsible for the FIDUCIARY. There is an IRS form that cancels FIDUCIARY, now you are no longer obligated for the FIDUCIARY.
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Old 02-17-2005, 01:10 PM
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Understood, but I'm dealing w/ the IRS on a secret default & do intend on using the HJR192/UCC stuff once my filings are in. But all I got right now is the secret default issue to focus on, due to the title of this thread being
Notorious default, and I need some caselaw/stat stuff that delineates defaults
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Old 10-10-2006, 02:26 PM
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Hi,
How would you go about getting a judgment overturned?
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sadie,



Thanks for posting and welcome.



I am unfamiliar as to why you would record anything with the county but if it works I would like for you to expand on this so that others may understand and possibly learn something new.



As to your situation, you are undoing what you are attempting to do. Why rescind the contract and ask for verification? Your action to rescind the contract can be used as evidence that you knew there was an obligation.

At least this is how I view it. So if I were a debt collector, I would ignore the codes you speak of as well since they do not apply to a verified obligation. But I could be wrong.



My process is simple and works. basically, what you are doing is using the law and getting their testimony at the same time. And why make an offer to pay when you can just remian in honor and give the payment in good faith?



For example, you say that I owe you 100.00. I say, please verify the debt according to USC 15, chpt 41 and I have enclosed a good faith payment (CPN) for the alleged amount.



Do you see the power in that? Do you see where I have sent their negative energy back and discharged it at the same time?



Any refusal will be documented by them when they return my offer. This is dishonor. Any acceptance by them and this results in a settled matter.



I use a notary because they are public officials, witnesses that can attest to the authenticity of the note and all the statements on the note are facts and adjudicated case law. Can't argue with that.



And if you want to file with the county recorder, the notary part is already done.



Hope this helps.
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pat69, welcome to the suijuris forum. In respond to your question:underpinning on your case, however you can file the motion to vacate judgment.
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