Proof of the Fraud!!!

[jaylon]

Gregtu told me about this site, and you can actually go on to a forum and post back and forth with the scumbags!!

www.CollectionIndustry.com

They talk about how they purchase debt, and the IRS 1099C that must be filed out once a debt is charged off!!

Lets go beat these thieves up on their own site!!

slow down!!!!!!! Why not leave them alone and use the info to beat them at their own game? can we do a 1099C and use it to our advantage?

[Judge Roy Bean]

Originally Posted by jaylon

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They talk about how they purchase debt, and the IRS 1099C that must be filed out once a debt is charged off!!....

And this is new? Forgiven debt has to be reported on a 1099C and the debtor is on the hook as if it were ordinary income.

That tends to sneak up on people who make deals with creditors.

[Judge Roy Bean]

Originally Posted by francis

slow down!!!!!!! Why not leave them alone and use the info to beat them at their own game? can we do a 1099C and use it to our advantage?

And just how do you figure you're going to issue a 1099C to "your advantage?"

Filing false documents with the IRS is a Federal crime.

[Akira]

Originally Posted by jaylon

Lets go beat these thieves up on their own site!!

I certainly understand the impetus... but isn't your energy best focused elsewhere?

There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root.-- Henry David Thoreau


For HIS Glory,
Akira

[mrg]

Originally Posted by Judge Roy Bean

Filing false documents with the IRS is a Federal crime.

My 1040 is a false and fraudulent document, and I am compelled under threat, coercion, and duress to perjure myself by signing a document that to the best of my knowledge is fraudulent.

They have guns.

They are very frightening.

The statutes are almost totally incomprehensible, and at best vague. The regulations are even worse.

[Judge Roy Bean]

Originally Posted by mrg

My 1040 is a false and fraudulent document, and I am compelled under threat, coercion, and duress to perjure myself by signing a document that to the best of my knowledge is fraudulent.

Well, then you're admitting to being somehow involved in a criminal offense. Not the best premise to base a legal argument on. Good luck.

Originally Posted by mrg

They have guns.

They are very frightening.

The statutes are almost totally incomprehensible, and at best vague. The regulations are even worse.

Rarely vague to professional tax practitoners. By the way, you can pay for, and then deduct, your costs of obtaining competent tax filing preparation advice.

[jaylon]

The only reason I mentioned the 1099C is because once this is filled out/filed with the IRS, upon belief and evidence the bank receives a tax credit for the entire alleged amount of the debt.

I had a bank charge off an account of mine and as soon as it happened, my credit report reflected a zero balance, then they had to cover their tracks so they went back a couple weeks later and changed the balance back to what it allegedly was to begin with, however it still indicates that a charge off was made.

Upon belief and evidence that's accord and satisfaction, because they accepted funds from a third party for the alleged debt which renders the account satisfied and uncollectible by the alleged creditor or any subsequent third party.

Then they assign it to a third party for VALUABLE CONSIDERATION, which is an additional payment.

On the collection site they speak about this process, so you know what don't fight them. Be a wolf in sheep's clothing and go find out what you need to find out to destroy them when the situation presents itself.

I have another question, why do we have to aurge? We all have to much knowledge to try to prove points and see who knows more. Lets put our heads together for one common goal, and kick some debt collector's butts!!!!

[rottweiler]

Competent tax filing advice is a myth.

Originally Posted by Judge Roy Bean

Well, then you're admitting to being somehow involved in a criminal offense. Not the best premise to base a legal argument on. Good luck.

Rarely vague to professional tax practitoners. By the way, you can pay for, and then deduct, your costs of obtaining competent tax filing preparation advice.

[rottweiler]

The IRS cannot even figure it out.
http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/...ps/P105690.asp

Let alone the so called competent professionals.
http://www.businesstaxrecovery.com/accurate_tax

The problem with fighting such things as debt collectors is the blood sucking system is designed by evil genius to smash any resistance. It does not make someone who loses stupid for trying. If so, everyone of the people who died or was injured fighting for our independence was stupid. If no one took a risk there would be no progress, the trick is make it a calculated risk.

The luciferian system can fall if enough Americans want it to fall.

All evidence used against us in a court of law is provided by us and vice versa. Information we can get from the parasites can be good.