Federal Indictments handed down

[Livefire]

Henry,

Is that cut and paste saying that a NO BAIL ARREST WARRANT was issue OR did it mean no BAIL ARREST WARRANT was in fact issued??? A slight change of emphasis means a great deal! Either they are being shafted without a bail hearing OR no warrrants were in fact issued against good ol' flecompte and cohorts!

In any case, Farrell talks a lot of smack.....now we will see if he, in fact gots game! I too remember his outbursts against any who dared question him or the DG process. As a matter of fact, he threatened Black Truth with a lawsuit! LOL And I agree with yours and iamfree's assessment with DG, they didnt come to the table with clean hands!

[Shoonra]

I have not heard of "no bail warrants". Usually there's an arrest, and then an arraignment where the plea is taken and bail discussed.

Virtually the only reasons for refusing bail outright is (1) the defendant was already convicted for another offense and will serve out that sentence (or at least a part of it) while awaiting trial for the new charge, or (2) the defendant is an unacceptable flight risk to the point that mere money is not sufficient assurance of his return for trial. In this instance the defendants have squirrelled away a great deal of money, evidently in places that the govt cannot find or cannot freeze, so there is a considerable risk that they'll take their hidden loot and skip town, Vesco-style.

Wow. I didn't catch that.

Thanks for pointing that out.

Henry Franklin

Shoon, thanks for the explanation of process.

[masterduke]

Wonder if attorney Steve Harms is conducting binness seminars in a bolshievic republic named Latvia so he can be close to the action when the banks open, hoping he can get that Dorean Dough? Cause didn't Shoonra state in another thread that Harms was going to be in bolshievic republics, teaching them how to chase debtors and squeeze 'em. Since Harms is the "expert" on screwing debtors.

[mrg]

Originally Posted by HenryBowman

Wow. I didn't catch that.

Thanks for pointing that out.

Henry Franklin

Shoon, thanks for the explanation of process.

Hmmm...............

[cigs645]

When I first heard of this groups intent to market was when I think like 2 years ago , all the named parties in the indictment held a conference off the coast of Gerogia wher they invited a whole bunch of network marketers to show them their proven test cases and launch the deal nationally . The name of the island is Jekyll Island off the coast of GA.

Originally Posted by masterduke

String Pulling by the banks maybe? These guys either by honest intent or devious design were poking a stick into one of the major sources of banking revenue. The banks wern't gonna stand for that very long. The real tragedy is all the people who have lost their homes because of these guys. And guys like Dan Benam profited as well by refering fresh victims to the scheme and recieving a referel fee of $500 bucks per victim. Everyone should be very aware of the scams that people come up with! The old saying, If it sounds to good to be true, then it probably isn't true. There are wolves around every corner.

[Shoonra]

With reference to denial of bail, another way a defendant might be an unacceptable flight risk - and therefore denied bail - is in instances where the penalty, if convicted, is so severe that a suspect might skip town with nothing more than the clothes on his back to avoid the punishment. This is why bail is almost always denied in cases that might result in capital punishment.

[Judge Roy Bean]

Originally Posted by HenryBowman

What allows them to deny bail?

Henry Franklin

The law allows them to deny bail, particularly in cases where the defendant is a flight risk. In addition, Johnson's a convicted felon. This is his 2nd time around.

[BassBoy]

As much as I was involved with the Dorean discussion, and was almost ready to partake in the adventure, I thank the Lord everyday for making me come to my senses. Although, coming to my senses didn't require a major slap in the face or kick in the ass. It just took a long, quite night to think about it.

For those who are about to lose their homes, and Judge Roy, you may be able to answer this, is there any way these folks can reverse this? There has to be something that can be done.

[Shoonra]

Con men like these squirrel some money away but usually spend most of it very quickly.

One inducement to help the victims is that the judge and/or prosecutor might shorten the prison sentence IF the perps refund the money, possibly with some formula for slight reductions for partial refunds. Another is to impose as long (and rough) a sentence as is permissible in order to disabuse the perp of the notion that he'll be able to enjoy the hidden loot after he's served his sentence.

But, in the vast majority of instances, there's really no way to get the money back. The severe sentences for such crimes are mostly to discourage imitators.