Federal Indictments handed down

[Judge Roy Bean]

Originally Posted by BassBoy

As much as I was involved with the Dorean discussion, and was almost ready to partake in the adventure, I thank the Lord everyday for making me come to my senses. Although, coming to my senses didn't require a major slap in the face or kick in the ass. It just took a long, quite night to think about it.

For those who are about to lose their homes, and Judge Roy, you may be able to answer this, is there any way these folks can reverse this? There has to be something that can be done.

Reversal, yes. Some victims have filed the required documents to dissolve the trusts, eliminate the power of attorney, etc., as long as they aren't in significant default in their original loans.

A fairly significant number (nowhere near the thousands claimed) of borrowers weren't in financial difficulty and could put together the resources to get out from under the program with the help of an attorney or some advice from a cooperative title company and lender.

Some number were actually in financial trouble before starting the process and they are going to lose their homes if they haven't already, unless, of course, they can reinstate the loan (a really cooperative lender would be required) or file bankruptcy.

The problem they face is the trusts and program have been so widely publicized as fraudulent that anyone trying to play dumb and claim they were innocent dupes is asking a court to really believe they weren't trying to get something for nothing. That's hard to do with the amount of information about the scheme that has been circulating since it was promoted.

Then there are the ones who simply refuse to accept the reality of life and believe Johnson is going to somehow call upon God's power to bring down the whole mortgage industry and save them. When they are foreclosed on and evicted, they'll still be saying the system is to blame.

Originally Posted by JRB

Then there are the ones who simply refuse to accept the reality of life and believe Johnson is going to somehow call upon God's power to bring down the whole mortgage industry and save them. When they are foreclosed on and evicted, they'll still be saying the system is to blame.

The Honorable Judge Roy Bean
Creditoris Squaliformes

JRB... are you herein suggesting that God does not have the power to do what you seemingly think is impossible? Or are you simply passing judgment on Johnsons' relationship with God? I am confused,, can you please clarify?

Jerry.

[masterduke]

Headline in the Detroit News 2/27/06; Defaults Soaring in State with Wayne County(Detroit) leading the charge. The sad fact is the way of life in this country is being systematically destroyed from within. I know other regions are booming but I think what is happening in Detroit is a blueprint for the rest of the country's housing/mortage industry eventually. Housing starts are down 5% for the second month and higher interest coupled with higher amounts of debt is going to squeeze allot of people. So this Dorean Group comes along as some sort of pied piper song and dance and away we go. Just like shysters working people who are upside down in credit debt. I threw away allot of money personally and got roasted in the end anyway. So the old saying "Buyer Beware" is still relevant.

[Livefire]

Hard to turn something around when the mayor and city council suck any life available out of the people and funnel it into their own or that of their family or friends pockets!!! Im sorry but I agree with Brooks Patterson on this, its the city adminsitration that belongs in the zoo.....specifically the parasite exhibit!!! along with the reset of the leeches!

[Judge Roy Bean]

Originally Posted by jerrypitts

JRB... are you herein suggesting that God does not have the power to do what you seemingly think is impossible? Or are you simply passing judgment on Johnsons' relationship with God? I am confused,, can you please clarify?

Jerry.

I don't see how you could be confused, but try this:
Some of Johnson's victims believe he is going to call upon God's power to save them by bringing down the mortgage system.

Nothing in either statement reflects on God's power nor Johnson's relationship with God. The subject is the victim's belief in Johnson.

Originally Posted by Judge Roy Bean

I don't see how you could be confused, but try this:
Some of Johnson's victims believe he is going to call upon God's power to save them by bringing down the mortgage system.

Nothing in either statement reflects on God's power nor Johnson's relationship with God. The subject is the victim's belief in Johnson.

[quote=JRB]Originally Posted by JRB
Then there are the ones who simply refuse to accept the reality of life and believe Johnson is going to somehow call upon God's power to bring down the whole mortgage industry and save them. When they are foreclosed on and evicted, they'll still be saying the system is to blame.

The Honorable Judge Roy Bean
Creditoris Squaliformes [\quote]

So what you are saying, is that there are people whose belief/faith is in question. Is that not a supposition, and a judgmental one at that, which implies that the faith of those people either is misquided or that their faith is on-mark and you are questioning someone elses ability/relationship to invoke the powers of God; or is it simply a matter that your own faith/belief will not allow you to believe in the power of God?

I remember reading from the Bible wherein numerous accounts are mentioned where particular characters were capable of invoking those powers. Are those also portraying the people who were the followers of the prophets to be misguided?

You suggest that the power of God to destroy the mortgage system or Johnsons relationship is not mentioned. You are sadly mistaken. Read your quoted statements above. You suggest that the subject is that of the "victims" who "believe" that Johnson is going to accomplish this thing... what is that thing???? Invoking the power of God... By whose relationship is that power going to be invoked???? Johnson.

Jerry.

Originally Posted by Livefire

Either they are being shafted without a bail hearing OR no warrrants were in fact issued against good ol' flecompte and cohorts!

In any case, Farrell talks a lot of smack.....now we will see if he, in fact gots game!

Well, my guess is that so far he ("gots") does have "game", considering he got out on bond Friday.

Game on...

Originally Posted by hunger-4-411

Well, my guess is that so far he ("gots") does have "game", considering he got out on bond Friday.

Game on...

I was told yesterday that the judge (Brazil) whom issued the "no bail warrants" has recused himself from the case. Now that is very peculiar.....

[Shoonra]

It is not unusual for the judge who handled the arraignment NOT to preside over the trial itself. At the arraignment he is exposed to arguments and claims which would not be allowed at trial, so having another judge handle the trial is a simple way of avoiding the risk of any exposure to prejudicial influences.

Originally Posted by Shoonra

It is not unusual for the judge who handled the arraignment NOT to preside over the trial itself. At the arraignment he is exposed to arguments and claims which would not be allowed at trial, so having another judge handle the trial is a simple way of avoiding the risk of any exposure to prejudicial influences.

Does this include the judge recusing himself allegedly because he is tired of the "shananagans" of the two defendants and having the case sent to San Francisco out of Oakland? Why couldn't another Oakland judge oversee?