Banks, Collectors, and CRAs Discuss the elimationa of secured and unsecured "debt", as well as tactics for dealing with debt collectors and credit reporting agencies.


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Old 01-07-2005, 05:10 PM
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monetizing a CPN??

If a CPN is a negotiable instrument can the bank accept this and deposit it like they do our "promissory note" signed agreement?

Can it be used to set up a new deposit account and create money from it tenfold as in Modern Money Mechanics?

If so then it would be to their benefit to accept it create more money then do their journal entry magic to get rid of the CC account and the new CPN account after they made all this new " money".

Thoughts please.
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Old 01-08-2005, 12:13 AM
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i think that is incorrect thinking.

your cpn, tendered against the alleged CC debt only discharges the CC debt. therefore, it is a wash...

i could be wrong, however.

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Old 01-08-2005, 01:01 AM
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no, the only reason they wouldnt do it is because the feds would come down on them for exposing the fraud. who would slave and work for them if they let it out the bag that your personal promissary note is equivalent to a federal reserve note.
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Old 01-08-2005, 06:41 AM
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Wink You'll go to the big house

I'll throw my 2 cents in on this one. Many folks have gone to the big house for doing what you are suggesting.

Remember the CPN is discharging from the private side a public debt. (Reduces the public debt) It's a bookkeeping entry.

Please don't try this because we'd have to be sending care packages to you......
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Old 01-08-2005, 06:47 AM
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Oh No!!!!!

Please do not try this at all!!!
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Old 01-08-2005, 08:45 AM
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I agree. The CPN or BoE should never be used as a cash item. It is for offset and adjustment only. Like Vanton said "It's a bookkeeping entry."
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Old 01-08-2005, 11:32 AM
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ditto. ditto ditto
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Old 01-08-2005, 05:44 PM
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I'm not using it as cash!!!! But what would prevent the bank from using it the same as a check?
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Old 01-09-2005, 04:38 AM
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Wink Just a Suggestion

The Creature from Jekyll Island by G. Edward Griffin.

It is a well written book and not as dry of a reading as you may think. He goes back and gives the history and evolution of the federal reserve system, and the reasons for its existence.

If you haven't read this one, it may help answer some of the questions your asking here to understand how the system is working.
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Old 01-09-2005, 04:49 AM
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I'm not using it as cash!!!! But what would prevent the bank from using it the same as a check?

The banks can do as they like with them. What does that matter? All we are interested in is that they accept it as discharging the alleged debt. It is as simple as that and nothing more. Just correct the record to show the account is now zero.
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