Need to open an bank account.

[idknow]

Due to circumstances beyond my control I need to open a bank account.

I'd like to request the assistance and knowledge of the Forum-Members in what I need to do and say to the folks at the bank, especially the one to whom I'll be speaking with and making application to.

Thanks to all in advance!

[macerico]

Well, here's the best I can come up with.

1. Form an LLC. Get it an EIN through a third party (since the IRS wants an EIN/ITIN/SSN to issue the number).

2. Find a bank that will not require a SSN/ITIN for authorized signators on the account (this is getting harder to find).

2a. You only have to give a SSN/ITIN if you lawfully have one. You can claim that you don't have a SSN can cannot obtain one, but that will gove over the heads of most bank employees.

3. Read the book "How To Be Invisible" from J. J. Luna. He tells you are more inventive way to get around this problem if you can find a willing third party to do the work for you.

[fulltitle]

WITHOUT PREJUDICE
Consider opening a Canadian account or the like. I personally would *not* suggest opening a bank account at a US bank.

For a US account, however, consider giving a W-8 or similar form when you open the account for a trust. Dont open it as a US citizen. If they insist on a bank account for you--give a W-8 for your own account.

Here is the real deal.

Remember, you are entering into a contract agreement with those folks. As such, the contract has to be understood and mutually agreed upon by all parties. The teller/agent assisting you with the paperwork, by nature will attempt to rush you through the signing process---- DON'T hurry... take your time and make the necessary changes to all of the paperwork that you find necessary.. if the agent insists that you cannot make changes to their paperwork, take it (your business) to another bank.

either you will find one in your community that will concede to your demands or you won't.. I am certain, however, you will find some fed stat somewhere that will require them to do business with you upon your terms,, afterall, you will be using FRN's or other forms of legal tender, and if they consistently refuse to accept your terms, then they are in effect refusing to accept your use of those legal tender items. It has to be a violation of some stat.

Jerry.

[charlesa6]

Originally Posted by idknow

Due to circumstances beyond my control I need to open a bank account.

I'd like to request the assistance and knowledge of the Forum-Members in what I need to do and say to the folks at the bank, especially the one to whom I'll be speaking with and making application to.

Thanks to all in advance!

I dont no how you can get around this one, because with the new Patriot Act, the law required the banker to furnished the information of newly account opener with their social security attached to it.
Online banking also required to do the same.
You will be asked to provide your name, address, date of birth, and other information that will allow the bank to identify you. You may also be asked to provide documentation as proof of identification.

I believe the bankers running scared, when it comes to BB requirement, and you no the consquences if they didn't come out clean.
Either you go by the rules govern the bankers or just forfeit it.

[Judge Roy Bean]

Originally Posted by idknow

Due to circumstances beyond my control I need to open a bank account.

I'd like to request the assistance and knowledge of the Forum-Members in what I need to do and say to the folks at the bank, especially the one to whom I'll be speaking with and making application to.

Thanks to all in advance!

There's no way around the identifiation/ssn issue any more. The Patriot Act has effectively closed the loopholes.

Be careful - falsifying documents submitted to a financial institution is a felony.

Originally Posted by Judge Roy Bean

There's no way around the identifiation/ssn issue any more. The Patriot Act has effectively closed the loopholes.

Be careful - falsifying documents submitted to a financial institution is a felony.

JRB... who said anything about falsifying documents? I have read this entire post (as short as it is) and did not see any mention of anything resembling that idea.

Jerry.

[Judge Roy Bean]

Originally Posted by jerrypitts

JRB... who said anything about falsifying documents? I have read this entire post (as short as it is) and did not see any mention of anything resembling that idea.

Jerry.

Read more carefully, jerry:

"Form an LLC. Get it an EIN through a third party (since the IRS wants an EIN/ITIN/SSN to issue the number)."

That dodge has gotten people smacked. Getting someone to help you do it brings them into the conspiracy.

It's a warning, jerry, nothing more.

Originally Posted by Judge Roy Bean

Read more carefully, jerry:

"Form an LLC. Get it an EIN through a third party (since the IRS wants an EIN/ITIN/SSN to issue the number)."

That dodge has gotten people smacked. Getting someone to help you do it brings them into the conspiracy.

It's a warning, jerry, nothing more.

Through the state of Florida, I have been recognized as both Jerry Carlos Pitts and JERRY CARLOS PITTS,,, UCC paperwork, properly shows that a third party is involved. Where is the illegality?

Jerry.

[Judge Roy Bean]

Originally Posted by jerrypitts

Through the state of Florida, I have been recognized as both Jerry Carlos Pitts and JERRY CARLOS PITTS,,, UCC paperwork, properly shows that a third party is involved. Where is the illegality?

Jerry.

Jerry - did you form an LLC with the intent to use a financial institution to move money without it being traced to you?

No. You're mixing apples and dump trucks. The UCC nonsense has nothing to do with an EIN obtained to avoid the use of your own SSN.