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Old 11-07-2005, 03:44 PM
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Hi Kitchie, Congratulations on your progress. I would like to ask if you could share an update? Have you had any luck selling the judgment?


I DON'T THINK ANYBODY HAS HAD ANY LUCK SELLING THESE FOREIGN JUDGMENTS. THE FORMER DOREAN GROUP CLAIMS THEY HAVE DONE THIS BUT NO PROOF YET.
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Old 11-07-2005, 04:14 PM
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i heard freedom club has "a party" who is interested in their judgments and I have heard of others who claim they can sell them.

I wanted to see if anyone else is having success. This Administrative Remedy is growing quite popular lately.

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Old 11-08-2005, 02:19 PM
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Here is what I did.

I sent John Snow and Exempt Exchange Item (EEI) otherwise known as a BOE. Then I sent the mortgage co a copy of the EEI along with actual and constructive notice that they comply with TD 25-06. TD 25-06 is a computer system that matches account numbers. I waited for the next contract (statement) and paid. Then I sent VP and Senior Council as well as others who injured me an NOTICE OF INTERNATIONAL COMMERCIAL CLAIM WITHIN THE ADMIRALTY ADMINISTRATIVE REMEDY 28 U.S.C. §1333.

The mortcage company and the parent company have remained silent. I sent them a notice of fault and opportunity to cure, notice of default, notice of closure and settlement, 2nd notice of settlement, and constructive notice of settlement. Tomorrow my notary will be sending a notice of dishonor which contains a paragraph "Noting for Protest". Then she will do an notice of protest and finally a certificate of protest.

Final step the notary files in the UCC office with the protest docs.

After that's all finished...I can sell the NOTICE OF INTERNATIONAL COMMERCIAL CLAIM WITHIN THE ADMIRALTY ADMINISTRATIVE REMEDY
28 U.S.C. §1333.

Kitchie

Well, you spent more in postage than you'll ever get from all of that.

FYI - the Dorean gurus are in jail awaiting trial for a similar kind of BS.
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Old 11-08-2005, 02:22 PM
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i heard freedom club has "a party" who is interested in their judgments and I have heard of others who claim they can sell them.

I wanted to see if anyone else is having success. This Administrative Remedy is growing quite popular lately.

Be careful. The alleged judgments are not only bogus, they have no value and anyone presenting them as something of value is engaged in fraud.
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Old 11-08-2005, 03:45 PM
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Be careful. The alleged judgments are not only bogus, they have no value and anyone presenting them as something of value is engaged in fraud.


THANKS JUDGE. COULD YOU EXPLAIN HOW THESE JUDGMENTS ARE BOGUS?
I HEARD THE DOREAN PEOPLE ALREADY HAVE SOME FUNDS FROM THE SALE OF THESE PHONY JUDGMENTS. DO YOU KNOW IF THIS IS TRUE?
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Old 11-08-2005, 04:35 PM
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please explain

Yes Judge, please explain. Most of the people I know who are obtaining these judgments are NOT doing so through the Dorean people.

Just to clarify, you are not saying that the judgement itself is fraudulent, right? You believe that only the "selling" of the judgments may be considered fraudulent.
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Old 11-14-2005, 02:03 PM
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THANKS JUDGE. COULD YOU EXPLAIN HOW THESE JUDGMENTS ARE BOGUS?
I HEARD THE DOREAN PEOPLE ALREADY HAVE SOME FUNDS FROM THE SALE OF THESE PHONY JUDGMENTS. DO YOU KNOW IF THIS IS TRUE?

This is nothing more than a re-re-re-re-engineering of the old BOE stuff that landed some people in jail.

There is no such thing as a private commercial remedy.

And if you believe anyone in any way connected with Dorean I'm of the opinion you deserve whatever befalls you.
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Old 11-14-2005, 02:06 PM
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Yes Judge, please explain. Most of the people I know who are obtaining these judgments are NOT doing so through the Dorean people.

Just to clarify, you are not saying that the judgement itself is fraudulent, right? You believe that only the "selling" of the judgments may be considered fraudulent.

The alleged "judgment" obtained via the process is fraudulent itself, therefore representing them as having value is fraudulent.
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Old 11-14-2005, 08:24 PM
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thanks for the reply, y.o! - i am still learning, so any advice helps. And, yes, I know to steer clear of The DG - been there already.

One more thing, Judge.. whats BOE?

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Old 11-14-2005, 10:31 PM
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This is nothing more than a re-re-re-re-engineering of the old BOE stuff that landed some people in jail.

There is no such thing as a private commercial remedy.

And if you believe anyone in any way connected with Dorean I'm of the opinion you deserve whatever befalls you.


THANKS FOR THE RESPONSE JRB.
THESE FOLKS ARE TALKING ABOUT AN INTERNATIONAL COMMERCIAL CLAIM WITHIN THE ADMIRALTY ADMINISTRATIVE REMEDY
28 U.S.C. §1333.

WHERE DID YOU GET PRIVATE COMMERCIAL REMEDY FROM?

MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE DG PRINCIPALS ARE IN JAIL FOR SELLING A MORTGAGE ELIMINATION PROGRAM AND NOT THIS OTHER STUFF.
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