what the heck is a private international administrative remedy demand

[joma44]

I found only one reference and that was on a findlaw question board and somebody and their lawyers were scratching their heads and asking the same thing. the answer given was that the experts didnt know why not ask the source.



so



what is it?

Please cite where it comes from.

is it a real legal principal?

what does the numbering system notate?



thanks

[wirlwind]

The remedy that you are tlking about is a way of settling debts with a conditional promise to pay-certified promissory note- CPN. The ones that are on Sui Juris come from CTC3 (Cracking the Code 3). It is based on FDCPA and HJR-192. The numbering system is your own. I ususally use my initials- the date I do it- and the initials of the person to whom I am tendering the CPN; ieLS-062304-ABC.



I hope that helps. Some of the experts on CPN's like Ice, Jerseee or SJ can probably provide more info.



Donna

It is my understanding that a CPN cannot be conditional.



HB

[wirlwind]

I guess the CPN is not conditional, but they have to meet some conditions if they are to redeem it. If those conditions aren't met, then the debt is satisfied ( and they can't meet the condtions, so you considered the matter settled.) If they reject it, then the loan is satisfied because they rejected an attempt to satisfy the "alleged" debt with what is considered legal tender, and if they accept it, then the "alleged"debt is satisfied. If they don't respond back in th given amount of time then that is their tacit acceptance of it, and the "alleged" debt is satisfied. The one thing that we know they can't do is give you the certified verification that you have demanded in order to redeem the CPN. That is what I meant by "conditional".



Donna

[Ice]

joma44,



Have you ever seen the documents? They are self explanatory. Any Attorney that cannot figure it out doesn't have the intelligence to "practice law". (Makes me wonder how they could pass the "Bar").



Ice

[suijuris]

All they ever do is "practice", and with lawyers, the old saying "practice makes perfect" does not hold true.

[Ice]

L O L !

[Jerseee]

Joma,



I'm not sure of your position. If you are or if you are not an attorney it does not matter. But I can say that folks are waking up and the best thing for attorneys to do is renounce their allegiance to the courts and give it to the people.



The remedy you speak of or what to know of, is the remedy of the people to protect themselves from fraud.



If one reads the documents--it is self explanitory. Now if the corp of attorneys are trying to figure a way of conquering such a document--then I can tell you how.



To me it seems that you are trying to either figure out what the doc is or how to defeat it. In any event, I will tell you how to defeat such a document......here is the secret.......................



Provide the party with certified verification. If there is the original document with signed signatures (not photcopies), this is how you defeat the document. However, defeating this document does not guarantee success--it just means you satisfied the demand and moved closer to honor.



Hope this helps you and the folks at Findlaw.

wow. That's pretty funny - yet I am not surprised at all. But all anyone has to do is open a law dictionary and <u>truly</u> <u>understand</u> what each word actually means. Looking at the rest of the document is not even necessary. The title is very accurate.



-squirrels

joma44:



It is suggested that you read through the examples the others made reference to.



Here are a few points to consider:



The document concepts referenced above are described as private between the parties for they are not transpiring in a pubic forum or public venue. In other words the affair is not being "transacted" in the public court system using publics funds.



The documents referenced are international because the real man creates and executes his or her remedy from a different jurisdiction entirely. The jurisdiction is of the sovereign, which is grounded in the realm of natural law and administered through the customs of the people, the law of the land i.e. common law.



In the event you have been dishonored by a party in commerce or otherwise, but as an example, lets say a credit card company or an alleged lendor, you can create your private, international remedy to your liking based upon the wrong doings you have discovered.



Another point on INTERNATIONAL, a sovereign is like a king, and a King’s affairs are to be recognized internationally if brought before an international consortium or venue.



Another point to reflect upon; you must, must, must, exhaust all ADMINISTRATIVE REMEDIES before you waste the publics funds.



The key here is that it is the sovereign’s duty to create and execute or ADMINISRATE the sovereigns remedy(ies) in commerce or out. In the event one has exhausted all administrative remedies then you can make a determination as to what venue you care to resolve your disagreement or dishonor.



Determination of the venue takes understanding and further, if you want to go big the venue and remedy can be big, however this of course requires a great deal of understanding.



It is suggested that you do as much research as possible and determine what is true for you so that you may take the path that suits you.



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