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Old 03-27-2006, 01:55 AM
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Promissory Notes - An Idea

A friend of mine was incarcerated a few days ago for some trouble with his probation schedule. I’m quite sure I could have gotten him out of all that, had he contacted me for advice. But unfortunately he went ahead and signed their papers, pleading guilty.
Anyhow, I’m not sure if I can help him get out of serving some jail time (Well, I still got a few tricks up my sleeve); but I was thinking that I might still be able to get rid of his fine, using a simple promissory note like this:

Payer (His name)
Payable to ______________
For the amount of $____
Payable upon the reinstatement of a lawful currency (i.e., true money, Gold and Silver).

What do you think?
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Old 03-27-2006, 06:34 AM
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Anyhow, I’m not sure if I can help him get out of serving some jail time (Well, I still got a few tricks up my sleeve); but I was thinking that I might still be able to get rid of his fine, using a simple promissory note like this:

Payer (His name)
Payable to ______________
For the amount of $____
Payable upon the reinstatement of a lawful currency (i.e., true money, Gold and Silver).

What do you think?
Keep us posted, If they accept it as a settlement to pay your friend fine.
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Old 03-27-2006, 07:20 AM
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A friend of mine was incarcerated a few days ago for some trouble with his probation schedule. I'm quite sure I could have gotten him out of all that, had he contacted me for advice. But unfortunately he went ahead and signed their papers, pleading guilty.
Anyhow, I'm not sure if I can help him get out of serving some jail time (Well, I still got a few tricks up my sleeve); but I was thinking that I might still be able to get rid of his fine, using a simple promissory note like this:

Payer (His name)
Payable to ______________
For the amount of $____
Payable upon the reinstatement of a lawful currency (i.e., true money, Gold and Silver).

What do you think?

LOL, if they reinstate gold and silver, you might be screwed!

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Old 03-27-2006, 08:08 AM
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promissary note

get a copy of the judges oath of office, the probation officer if he has a oath, and cite article 1 section 10 and add that language to the note.,give them 72 hrs to dishonor then send out a writ of habeas corpus based on the tendered and dishonored note.
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Old 03-27-2006, 08:21 AM
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A friend of mine was incarcerated a few days ago for some trouble with his probation schedule. I’m quite sure I could have gotten him out of all that, had he contacted me for advice. But unfortunately he went ahead and signed their papers, pleading guilty.
Anyhow, I’m not sure if I can help him get out of serving some jail time (Well, I still got a few tricks up my sleeve); but I was thinking that I might still be able to get rid of his fine, using a simple promissory note like this:

Payer (His name)
Payable to ______________
For the amount of $____
Payable upon the reinstatement of a lawful currency (i.e., true money, Gold and Silver).

What do you think?
Other than the fact that they wouldn't accept it, there is a risk some smartass might use it to prosecute you for attempting to use a fraudulent promissory note to pay a fine, since FRN's are lawfull currency.
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Old 03-27-2006, 12:45 PM
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Other than the fact that they wouldn't accept it, there is a risk some smartass might use it to prosecute you for attempting to use a fraudulent promissory note to pay a fine
How is this fraudulent? It has all four required aspects of a promissory note (unlike FRNs).
But anyhow, this is just district court so it doesn't bother me at all if they want to prosecute, hehe! They are NOT a court of record so they are unable to fine or imprison! (Unless you authenticate their judgment by signing it, like my friend did.)

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FRN's are lawfull currency.
No. FRNs are not currency under any stretch of the imagination. It is totally impossible for legal tender to be "currency" because legal tender is nothing more than a promissory note (an IOU); the transaction is NOT "current" until that note is paid off.
The FRNs in circulation today are not even legal tender though, because they don't have the four required aspects of a promissory note (Payee, payer, date, amount) and because they are not redeemable in lawful money.
Legal tender MUST be redeemable; but even then, it isn't currency.

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LOL, if they reinstate gold and silver, you might be screwed!
That probably won't happen until after the crunch. And I won't be worrying about this then!

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Hi NarrowPathPilgrim,

re: the writting of a promisary note

What about writting on it, Discharging of Debt Instrument? And other things like, exempt from levy in accordance with HJR-192. What are other things to write on it?
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Hi NarrowPathPilgrim,

re: the writting of a promisary note

What about writting on it, Discharging of Debt Instrument? And other things like, exempt from levy in accordance with HJR-192. What are other things to write on it?
How does this look?
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Old 03-27-2006, 01:27 PM
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(1) This has NOTHING to do with "HJR 192".

(2) This doesn't even come close to satisfying the criteria for a promissory note.

(3) Many (perhaps most) courts have taken to requiring, except perhaps from recognized bailbondsmen, cash for bail rather than any sort of check or promissory note.

(4) Instead of pulling this stunt, which could get your friend into even hotter water, maybe it's time he consulted a real lawyer with experience in this sort of situation.
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Niiice! The method below might be simpler, but yours would be more interesting as proof-of-concept.

http://www.freewebtown.com/satori/li...on/define.html

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