Banks, Collectors, and CRAs Discuss the elimationa of secured and unsecured "debt", as well as tactics for dealing with debt collectors and credit reporting agencies.


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Old 05-09-2006, 08:38 PM
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collecting on purchased debt.

Is there any law that prohibits collecting on purchased debt tat has bee written off by the original creditor?
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Old 05-10-2006, 06:34 PM
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Is there any law that prohibits collecting on purchased debt tat has bee written off by the original creditor?
Not that I know of, others may have more information.

In any case, the third party dept collector (DC) may be challenged to prove that you, or anyone, actually owes the dept. Usually this can be initiated, within 30 days of the notice from the DC with a Verification of Dept (VoD), you can find a sample in the download section. Remember, you should act in a timely fashion, the DCs have a number of tactics that they may use against you, counting on your failure to respond, being one among many.

There are lots of information to look at on this forum regarding this issue, have fun.

I hope that this helps.
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Old 05-11-2006, 10:41 PM
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The dirty rats have over a 100 years of screwing people concerning debt. And have allot of court dec. that favor their postion as well as help from the blob on the bench. Being prepared is a good thing regarding this scenerio.
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Old 05-12-2006, 06:40 AM
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Is there any law that prohibits collecting on purchased debt tat has bee written off by the original creditor?

Only in the proper forum of judiciary. Understand that no attorney in a black robe is judicial. Also realize that albeit lipservice, there are no Article III judiciaries functioning in America (in the courthouses). Biblical to the point of Talmudic, the command for us to form courts of justice when no competent court of justice exists is firmly in place. Bankrupt is bereft - are you ready to judge, order and decree? Are you a court of competent jurisdiction.

Truth of the matter is that companies who have bought your alleged debt for pennies on the dollar will immediately scrap your account at the first hint of a federal summons - sight unseen!

Note one of the attachments:

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P.S. Note the history snippet - DEPOSITIONS IN ADMIRALTY CASES.
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Old 05-12-2006, 08:13 AM
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Only in the proper forum of judiciary. Understand that no attorney in a black robe is judicial. Also realize that albeit lipservice, there are no Article III judiciaries functioning in America (in the courthouses). Biblical to the point of Talmudic, the command for us to form courts of justice when no competent court of justice exists is firmly in place. Bankrupt is bereft - are you ready to judge, order and decree? Are you a court of competent jurisdiction.

DING. Lights Bells and Whistle sounding off. I found this to be real helpful. I even thought about making a bunch of copies and givin out to folks as they appear for jury duty. Outside the Courthouse of course. It only takes ONE, for whatever reason[maybe the light shines] to derail a corruption of process.

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Old 05-12-2006, 12:22 PM
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DING. Lights Bells and Whistle sounding off. I found this to be real helpful.....

That was a very good read.

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In "Secrets of The Legal Industry" by Richard Cornforth, page 30, third paragraph,

O.S. = Oklahoma Statutes
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Old 05-13-2006, 12:49 AM
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Cornforth is a loser. Here's the proof:

http://www.oscn.net/applications/osc...p?CiteID=50556

Follow him at your peril.
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Old 05-13-2006, 01:24 AM
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UGA Lawdog,

I'll must concede to the fact that you are quite correct with respect to this particular case which transpired in 1997 however, Cornforth's material has for some, but NOT all, has been successful enough to merit attention from the debt collection industry and not by simply calling him an utter nut-job.

Of course I am not impartial by any means as I do publish his books etc. In any event, I shall cordially ask if you have evaluated all of Cornforth's or at least his more current material and in which case have determined it all to be meritless?

If so, I'd surely be interested to read what you have to say or review the facts supporting your contentions. If you have more appellate cases which demonstrate a track record, again, I'd surely like to review such.

Further, and for what it may be worth, Cornforth did encourage his daughter to go to law school and the end result has yielded a graduate which is now an attorney who unequivocally supports her father's research and perhaps has helped educate him in one point or another addressing deficiencies if any.

Again though, I'd like to see what else you have to say in the interest of education and the highest truth, whatever that may be.

Thanks though...
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