fingerprint in banks

[fulltitle]

Quote:
Originally Posted by rentiap
I like the idea of puting the print within a box with TDC written through it.
Which makes it not a part of the document and also with Threat Durress and Coersion.

JRB, that appears to me to be utterly fallacious that even a stuffed turkey might wonder if you are willingly misleading the People. How in h-e double hockey-sticks can indicating your frame of mine and penning a failure to have meeting of minds be fraud? Got sophism?

1. sophism - a deliberately invalid argument displaying ingenuity in reasoning in the hope of deceiving someone

What his statement translates to is: MEGA-****ZNIT dont do that you'll bowl over the hypothecation and chattelization of men.

You and Shoonra bring something to mind:

Originally Posted by fulltitle

And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise anymore: The merchandise of gold, and silver, and precious stones, and of pearls, and fine linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet, and all thyine wood, and all manners of ivory, and all manner vessels of most precious wood, and of brass, and iron, and marble. And cinnamon, and odours, and ointments, and frankincense, and wine, and oil, and fine flour, wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and horses, and chariots, and slaves, and souls of men.

[ezrhythm]

Originally Posted by David Merrill

The person with the account has already told the bank to cash checks. Be careful not to let them charge you $5 for simply fulfilling that contract with the account holder.

This is interesting because they will say I am their customer. I tell them that the drawer is the customer and the draft is a legal document they must honor.
I've only been able to get them to write out a receipt for the $5. Then they have to ask the manager how. They don't keep a copy of the receipt so it looks as if they are skimming the $5.
How would you suggest "not letting them" when they refuse to cash the check unless you agree to the $5 fee.

[David Merrill]

Originally Posted by ezrhythm

This is interesting because they will say I am their customer. I tell them that the drawer is the customer and the draft is a legal document they must honor.
I've only been able to get them to write out a receipt for the $5. Then they have to ask the manager how. They don't keep a copy of the receipt so it looks as if they are skimming the $5.
How would you suggest "not letting them" when they refuse to cash the check unless you agree to the $5 fee.

Telephone the account holder (or threaten to) and ask if they know that the bank is skimming an extra $5 off every check he or she writes to a non-account holder who comes to the drawer bank for cash?

Usually just ask the teller if the account holder approves of them skimming an extra $5 off the top of the transaction. So far they always waive the $5 - except maybe in one case if I recall. That fellow relented and paid up the $5. Maybe that was just because he was in a hurry though.



Regards,

David Merrill.

[charlesa6]

Originally Posted by REDCLOUD

The way I understand this fingerprint process occuring is when you take a check issued to you to bank where you do not have an account. The reason for the ID and print is because several years ago a check cashing ring from Mexico went all over the Southwest and cashed millions of dollars of bogus Walmart checks. The print idea was to stop this practice and aid in arrest. If you have a legit check you can always ask for certified funds and take it to your bank and cash it. (A fee for this) If you do not have bank and do not want one or can't get one, the best alternative is a small credit union. Many of these cash it for you if you are a member. A small savings account makes you a member. Some give ATM's. There are also now credit/debit card companies found on the Internet that will deposit your check and give you an ATM card. Compass bank ATM's will give you cash for no fee, even if you do not have an account with them. (so they advertise). Also many small State banks will also do this for no fee if you have an account with them and many of these are very lenient with opening an account. Great if its a short drive to the country for you. However, if you live in central LA, it is not easy to drive to Garden City Kansas to cash your checks, however, you can makes deposits by mail and ATMS work anywhere. You can also open checking accounts with some brokerage houses through mutual funds without a credit check. You can then deposit checks and write checks on some of theses types of accounts if your activity is "limited". (Less than a certain number of checks per month, around 15). Another solution is to simply endore the check to a friend who does have a bank account and who will give you cash for your check and let them deposit the check to their own account.

Good advice indeed.
Good advice indeed. That is the other way to get around the situation peoples are facing with the bank industries.

[ezrhythm]

In addition to Redcloud's suggestions, here is another. It's a bit pricey at first but could be of great benefit to many who want an alternative to banking.
Feature includes being able to send Digital Money Orders via e-mail that may be printed and cashed or deposited in to a conventional bank account.

http://www.alfii.com/alfii.cfm

Includes services from: https://secure.myicis.com/#

[Ice]

If anyone ever drafts a check to me and their bank refuses to honor it (even if it is because I refuse to give a fingerprint) the NP process will be initiated immediately.

That is what NP is for.

But then again, I wouldn't accept a check.

Ice

Originally Posted by Shoonra

This business with the paper and the 72 hour deadline and such reminds me of "Casting the Runes" by M.R. James.

Let it remind you of what you wish. Ignorance, as they say, is bliss.

It's good to be the Trustee.

Fulltitle is squarely on the bullseye.

[weasel]

Originally Posted by Ice

If anyone ever drafts a check to me and their bank refuses to honor it (even if it is because I refuse to give a fingerprint) the NP process will be initiated immediately.

That is what NP is for.

But then again, I wouldn't accept a check.

Ice

ICE-
I know its been a while since this post, but can you explain why you don't accept checks? Do you accept FRNs?

[Ice]

Originally Posted by weasel

ICE-
I know its been a while since this post, but can you explain why you don't accept checks? Do you accept FRNs?

Tracking.

IF I had an FRN... who would know? The only way it could be known is if I received some form of "credit" or "check" that I exchange for FRN.

I will accept a PO MO every now and then.

Ice

[idknow]

Originally Posted by mweist7124

can banks force a fingerprint to receive frn? i went to cash a personal check and they would not give me frn's with out my fingerprint. i had the two other pieces of id's. i refused it and am looking for options.

any thoughts on this one? max (someone offered liquid bandaid option and then billing them for my print) thanks, any other options?

MWeist, I recall reading a mention about fingerprints over on Eccelsia.org; in the sense that it is our true proof of identity that we need not acquire from govt.

Perhaps we all need a mental adjust regarding the use of our property?

I dont think i'd object to a request for a smudge in certain circumstances; but i have learned to say "no" when the military demands it.

the bank is trying to do a good thing and i dont think we'd lose anything by providing it.

one bit's opinion