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Old 09-29-2006, 03:11 PM
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Talking Crafting Your CPN or IBOE

How does one Craft there CPN or IBOE?

What parchment do you reccomend what all has to be posted conspicusuly on the do***ent. everything from the pay to the order of, and since its not a check, it doesnt have a micr. can someone post a picture of one, and make highlighted notes of everything that has to be on it, and define each section of the do***ent. Somewhat like a nice visual presentation?

Also, i was reading a thing about an IBOE but you have to list the US Treasury account, that they are going to draft your private funds from. How does on craft the IBOE do***ent and how does one know what Tresury dept. numbers and such to list for there Trustee Name?


David , Mikah, Jersee? Have any good performances to show. Make this the 4star CPN/IBOE- anything you ever wanted to know about crafting these do***ents thread !!! He, he, he....
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Old 09-29-2006, 07:55 PM
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Would your US Treasury Account Number be the Cusip number on the back of your ss. that david is always mentioning or this treasury account number a seperate entity.
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Old 09-30-2006, 06:55 AM
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Crafting you do***ents

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Old 09-30-2006, 08:37 AM
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Old 09-30-2006, 09:18 AM
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Thank you david for providing a copy that i can study.

However, in the small print of the bill of exchange, what does the small print say? i have to squint just to try to decipher it, maybe i need to get a reading microscope. i need to read this in pdf format so i can blow up the images.

This Bill of Exchange does it have a certain amount that it is discharging for your particular remedy or is it claiming a tort for all funds that are held through the international monetary fund, thus giving you unlimited funds to discharge per house joint resolution 192? The bill of exchange can be crafted in a boiler plate fashion? How does this differ in appearance from a CPN coupon? Maybe Jersee can help, if he ever gets back from vacation. LOL.

Also David in the second Image it has 8 Different Organizations/People you sent this too everyone from Kofi Annan to Treasur Mr. Snow? Are you stating it is neccessary to mail a copy to all these individuals say that they are put on notice of your IBOE?

Is this what you used to successfuly cure the Credit River Money Decision?

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Old 09-30-2006, 10:10 AM
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Go here for my explanation: http://www.suijuris.net/forum/ucc/30...struments.html

This should guide you in the direction you wish to go.

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Old 09-30-2006, 10:28 AM
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Thank you david for providing a copy that i can study.

However, in the small print of the bill of exchange, what does the small print say? i have to squint just to try to decipher it, maybe i need to get a reading microscope. i need to read this in pdf format so i can blow up the images.

This Bill of Exchange does it have a certain amount that it is discharging for your particular remedy or is it claiming a tort for all funds that are held through the international monetary fund, thus giving you unlimited funds to discharge per house joint resolution 192? The bill of exchange can be crafted in a boiler plate fashion? How does this differ in appearance from a CPN coupon? Maybe Jersee can help, if he ever gets back from vacation. LOL.

Also David in the second Image it has 8 Different Organizations/People you sent this too everyone from Kofi Annan to Treasur Mr. Snow? Are you stating it is neccessary to mail a copy to all these individuals say that they are put on notice of your IBOE?

Is this what you used to successfuly cure the Credit River Money Decision?

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Sorry the archived copy is difficult to read. (attached)

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Is this what you used to successfuly cure the Credit River Money Decision?

In a sense; I used the same clerk. I suppose that is what you mean. The CRMD cured by trial in 1968 res judicata. I published it here recently and that in a sense is curing it locally like public law in the Federal Register or whatever.

You can get certified copies by calling (719) 520-6200.

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This Bill of Exchange does it have a certain amount that it is discharging for your particular remedy or is it claiming a tort for all funds that are held through the international monetary fund, thus giving you unlimited funds to discharge per house joint resolution 192?

Yes. That certain amount is exactly what is owed by the Bretton Woods nations to the IMF.

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The bill of exchange can be crafted in a boiler plate fashion? How does this differ in appearance from a CPN coupon?

Because of the nature of the BOE and its extraordinary/non-amount (debt is nothing but credit) of value, all other BOEs based in debt compete with it for confidence. I cannot blame skeptics one minute for not placing confidence in my BOE. I own all the money in the world. I own all the debt in the world. Both are true at once. So what am I? Rich or in debt?

Interestingly, the BOE cured on September 11, 2001.


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Old 09-30-2006, 10:18 PM
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Question for Jersee

1.When Filing your Vod/Cpn package does the Adminstrative number have to be any particular number or can the admin number for the do***ent be any arbitrailly random number you picked out of the universe?

the title could essentially say at the top of the page 123456-abcd International private adminstrative form of the Great White Shark ???


2.Also at the bottom of the indorsment when you are having the notary public indorse the cpn do***ent of the vod package, is it required to have a photocopy of your state issued id and your finger print. as i thought the whole point of being sovereign was not to display fingerprints or state issue photo ids as david is always saying.. I suspect this is completely unnecessary in the indorsement part of the cpn do***ent, as the state issue id is not you it is your hypothetecation surety of the trust do***ent.. ???????

3.and i presume this is why you no longer use that particular form as we learn, we realize certain aspects we added are overkill, and i definately think the photo id, fingerprint is overkill and has no relavance to remedy, as your objective is not prove to anyone or argue that you are that surety, your objective is not to associate yourself with the surety. as the rich say, own nothing, control everything???
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1.When Filing your Vod/Cpn package does the Adminstrative number have to be any particular number or can the admin number for the do***ent be any arbitrailly random number you picked out of the universe?

LOL! You are anwering your own questions. By jove I think you've got it! Rule of thumb, it is your CPN so give it your number

the title could essentially say at the top of the page 123456-abcd International private adminstrative form of the Great White Shark ???


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2.Also at the bottom of the indorsment when you are having the notary public indorse the cpn do***ent of the vod package, is it required to have a photocopy of your state issued id and your finger print. as i thought the whole point of being sovereign was not to display fingerprints or state issue photo ids as david is always saying.. I suspect this is completely unnecessary in the indorsement part of the cpn do***ent, as the state issue id is not you it is your hypothetecation surety of the trust do***ent.. ???????

Find out what is required first. But play the game. Remember there is a MYSTIC ONE and a Mystic One--pay attention and go forth

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3.and i presume this is why you no longer use that particular form as we learn, we realize certain aspects we added are overkill, and i definately think the photo id, fingerprint is overkill and has no relavance to remedy, as your objective is not prove to anyone or argue that you are that surety, your objective is not to associate yourself with the surety. as the rich say, own nothing, control everything???

Mystic One, I'm not sure if you are asking a question or teaching others, LOL. Use what works for you and play by the rules--but use the rules in your favor since the rules were designed for you to use in the first place. The biggest misconception about laws, codes, and statutes is----people think that these things are created to work against them. Not so. They are there for your use to use against companies or even other sovereigns that do not challenge jurisdiction. have fun
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Old 10-01-2006, 11:09 AM
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Well there are six elements that are needed to make it negotiable and they are:



1. be in writing

2. be signed by the maker or drawer

3. be an unconditional promise or order to pay

4. state a fixed amount of money

5. be payable on demand or at a definite time

6. be payable to order or to bearer, unless its a check

AFter reviewing this: I can say on my form : Adminstrative Remedy of the Great white Shark 123.:

make slure these 6 elements are on the parchment paper, and in the Vod package state, they can tender this cpn upon proof of claim.. And you state they have 20 days to respond or they go into default thus the (#5 be payable upon on demand or at a definite time) if they cannt prove claim they cant cash the check at a definite time
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