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Old 10-08-2006, 03:40 AM
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Returning offers for value

Hello everyone, I just recently started reading about all this interesting stuff concerning how the government is indebted to us and how we can discharge any debts that companies are claiming against us. I'm glad I found this site because I know I'll need more help than just what these articles I've read on other sites have told me.

One of the articles I read was titled "Presentments" on wealth4freedom.com, and in that article they said if you receive a bill, a statement, or even a summons to court you can do the following:

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1. After making a copy of the essential documents issued by the other side, imprint over the first page of the original of each document the following text (there are numerous versions of this and opinions as to which is best):
This presentment is accepted for assessed value and returned in exchange for settlement and closure of this accounting, certified and sworn on the commercial liability of the authorized representative as true, correct, and complete, with all related endorsements front and back. Pre-paid; exempt from levy. Adjust the account and release the orders to the authorized representative immediately.

[Autographed Postage Stamp
(Two-cents US is OK)]--------------- Date:_______________________

2. If you have had your bullet stamp made, which includes your full name in upper- and lower-case (some people use all lower-case letters in their documents for ancient linguistic reasons17 ), as well as your EIN# and the terms stating that you are operating in capacity of being the “living principal” and “authorized representative,” stamp your bullet stamp in gold ink so that it is over part of your Accepted and Returned for Value, i.e., “ARFV,” stamp (above) and also across the upper left hand portion of the postage stamp.

3. Autograph your name at a diagonal across the postage stamp so that your autograph is done over a part of the ARFV text, across the postage stamp, and on the presentment itself. Use blue or purple ink.18 Put in the date by hand.
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Then it said have a notary send it back. Is this really all that has to be done and can you even do this with a summons to court so you can completely avoid going to court at all?

Also, if there is any other reading I should check out please let me know. I also need to learn more about filing a UCC financiary statement. I found the site where I can do this online for my state but I don't want to do anything until I know what I'm doing.
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Old 10-08-2006, 07:07 AM
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sammichcat, welcome to the suijuris forum. check member's forum, and downloads section for further studies and learning.
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Old 10-08-2006, 07:10 AM
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charles, u still a man full of words. he he he!
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Old 10-08-2006, 05:45 PM
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Winston Shrout docs

I have downloaded the Winston Shrout documents but I have a few quick questions about them. Whenever it says "employer identification number" this is my strawman's social security number, right? Also, I'm not supposed to put any values in the blanks that say "total amount" on any of the documents?

Also, is there any specific thing I should write on the presentments besides "Accepted for value" and should I write my signature over a postage stamp?

Thanks in advance for helping me out.
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