Government Cellphone Spying.

[BOBT12]

Originally Posted by PeterFreedom

Dec 7 2006, 09:32 PM

Yeah, well ... huge difference is that the technology was utilized for crime bosses, i.e. lawbreakers, evildoers. Are we who petition for redress of grievance in that same class? I think not. Does/would the FBI think so? I think doubly not. [IMHO]

update The FBI appears to have begun using a novel form of electronic surveillance in criminal investigations: remotely activating a mobile phone's microphone and using it to eavesdrop on nearby conversations.

The technique is called a "roving bug," and was approved by top U.S. Department of Justice officials for use against members of a New York organized crime family who were wary of conventional surveillance techniques such as tailing a suspect or wiretapping him.

Have you ever heard of the FBI's COINTELPRO program?

In the Final Report of the Select Committee COINTELPRO was castigated in no uncertain terms:

"Many of the techniques used would be intolerable in a democratic society even if all of the targets had been involved in violent activity, but COINTELPRO went far beyond that...the Bureau conducted a sophisticated vigilante operation aimed squarely at preventing the exercise of First Amendment rights of speech and association, on the theory that preventing the growth of dangerous groups and the propagation of dangerous ideas would protect the national security and deter violence."[2]

The Church Committee documented a history of the FBI being used for purposes of political repression as far back as World War I [In other words, since the begining of the FBI], through the 1920s, when they were charged with rounding up "anarchists and revolutionaries" for deportation, and then building from 1936 through 1976.

The FBI claims that it no longer undertakes COINTELPRO or COINTELPRO-like operations. However, critics claim that agency programs in the spirit of COINTELPRO target groups like the Committee in Solidarity with the People of El Salvador, Earth First! and the Anti-Globalization Movement.

[...]

4. "Extralegal Force and Violence: The FBI and police threatened, instigated, and themselves conducted break-ins, vandalism, assaults, and beatings. The object was to frighten dissidents and disrupt their movements. In the case of radical Black and Puerto Rican activists (and later Native Americans), these attacks—including political assassinations—were so extensive, vicious, and calculated that they can accurately be termed a form of official 'terrorism.'" [think 9-11]. [5]

The FBI also conducted "black bag jobs", warrantless surreptitious entries, against the targeted groups and their members.[6]

Emphasis added.

So much for the FBI.

[charlesa6]

Ain't that the truth?

[SaveUncleSam]

I have had people tell me they have never heard of such a device built into cell phones (post 2001) that tracks and monitors movement. Others have flat-out denied that government would do anything like that. (They still believe that government is all-protecting.) Still others just simply don't care by saying "well, I got nothing to hide".

I am more fearful that we have the third group running around out there saying "oooh yes officer, oooh yes judge, oooh yess government I am but a lowly 'citizen'!"

Save the fact that even before the NSA spy story came out last December, I remember seeing episodes of '24' on FOX in early 2005 where the 'Counter Terrorist Unit' tracked suspects by their cell phones. When one of their agents goes under cover, they are instructed to remove their cell phone's battery to escape tracking.

In the 1998 movie 'Enemy of the State', the ex-NSA character speaks about the telecommunications comoanies being in bed with the government since the 1940s. Now we know this to be true.

So there, even with a mainstream presentation, most are still ignorant to the facts.

SUS

[fulltitle]

Without Prejudice
This 'splains it Lucy.

http://www.amazon.com/Deep-Black-Wil...e=UTF8&s=books



A U.S. intel agency propogated the lie (Psychological Operation) that a politician was a vampire by planting people in pubs that would spreading the rumor and keep it abuzz while other operatives would kidnap farm workers as they walked home and then subsquently pierce their necks and then drain all the blood out of their bodies and then the operatives would dump the body so that it would be discovered when workers went to work the next day. What would keep folks like that from ritualistically murdering the wife of a famous football star and her boyfriend and them blame it on the football star?

As a matter of routine, intelligence operatives might parachute from high altitudes in an otherwise tense region, put on uniforms of Military A and then proceed to fire upon Military B in order to provoke hostilities between those two countries. In the news you might see "Fighting broke out between A and B today after six months of quiet along the border."

[ndusa]

Anything that sends a signal is fair game. Cordless phone's are great for this- I bought a police scanner, got on the net, and started entering the phone codes into my scanner. It worked like a charm! You can hear the phone ring even! Just like being there.

I know it can be done on cell phones, and there are codes you can enter into certain scanners that will cause the persons phone call to end lol.

When I listen to the police scanner, and they radio a cop, the cop always says the will "use a land line", meaning a reg. phone, as he knows anyone can pick those radio waves up. Becarefull!

[charlesa6]

Ain't that the truth? Thanks for link, fulltitle.

[Mark]

Article:

The stalker in your pocket
A new generation of 'snoopware' listens, watches and spies through cell phones -- COMPUTERWORLD (July 20, 2007)
http://www.computerworld.com/action/...8&pageNumber=1

[Dillon Hunt]

It's not all bad news. If any phone call or computer data is ever used against you in court, "You can say it could have been a hacker how do I know?"

I think they call that Reasonable Dought !

Thank you

Did Dillon Hunt really post this or am I really a FBI Agent ?

[fulltitle]

Without Prejudice.
Use a 1-way pager. Oddly they have become a challenge to find in most cellular outlets.

Maybe don't tell folks your cellphone number (or carrier) unless you really know them. If you frequent watering holes or crowded spots and are a 'target' (even if you've done no wrong) be mindful that using girls/guys to flirt with you to get your telephone number or other info to pass it on to an "agent" sitting across the room isn't an unusual technique.

A cordless phone on your home line (even if its not in use) is a no-no if you are security conscious.