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Old 06-17-2006, 10:58 PM
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There won't be a knock on the door...

http://www.lewrockwell.com/rossi/rossi12.html


And defenses against the tyranny:

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Old 06-18-2006, 08:05 AM
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Police State - Step by Step

Yes the police state is falling into place step by step. Much like erecting a building, all of the contractors follow the blueprints.

First we are required to use photo ID, then we must use government issued photo ID. At first we need traffic cameras, then we need cameras for people. Soon we will need RFID in our government ID, later we will need RFID in our bodies.

When the police fail to ID themselves, there is no way for those occupying the home to know if it is a friend or foe breaking in. Those in the home may feel the need of self-protection, as you can see the contractors are providing less with this ruling. This maybe why the contractors want to ban guns in the public's hands.
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Old 06-18-2006, 09:47 AM
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Constitutionally, there is a bifurcation, in the fed's tree of authority, giving them two single and separate jobs. First, to manage the Union of states, and second, to manage the municipality, Washington D.C., and it's (US) citizens.

Does anyone ever bother to ask which laws are for whom?

The slaves may want to stand up on this one.


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Old 06-19-2006, 06:16 PM
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When the police fail to ID themselves, there is no way for those occupying the home to know if it is a friend or foe breaking in.
I've had some recent encounters with the sheriff's department coming to my door (not breaking in, though.) I've talked to them 4 times now, and each time I get a bit bolder and more obstinate. This last time, earlier today, he brought a backup with him. I guess he thinks a mom with 7 children in the house is a threat because I'm not answering his questions. I wrote up a form for him to fill in (name, badge and bond #s, employer, supervisor name and phone, purpose of contact/detainment, "do you have your oath on file?", date and signature.) He filled it out yesterday, except for the purpose part. Today he refused to fill out completely or return it to me because I wouldn't tell him my name. I said, "This is my house, I don't have to tell you anything." It's interesting.
And today they didn't even park in the driveway, but somewhere on the road, so we couldn't look out the window and see who was there before answering the knock on the door. Nevermind there's a window beside the door, with all the noise the children make, it was obvious someone was home!
And Henry, I love the part you added to your signature in red...I'm working on being impossible!
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Old 06-19-2006, 07:24 PM
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I've had some recent encounters with the sheriff's department coming to my door (not breaking in, though.) I've talked to them 4 times now, and each time I get a bit bolder and more obstinate. This last time, earlier today, he brought a backup with him. I guess he thinks a mom with 7 children in the house is a threat because I'm not answering his questions. I wrote up a form for him to fill in (name, badge and bond #s, employer, supervisor name and phone, purpose of contact/detainment, "do you have your oath on file?", date and signature.) He filled it out yesterday, except for the purpose part. Today he refused to fill out completely or return it to me because I wouldn't tell him my name. I said, "This is my house, I don't have to tell you anything." It's interesting.
And today they didn't even park in the driveway, but somewhere on the road, so we couldn't look out the window and see who was there before answering the knock on the door. Nevermind there's a window beside the door, with all the noise the children make, it was obvious someone was home!
And Henry, I love the part you added to your signature in red...I'm working on being impossible!
marksgirl, you did great. I've been through this myself. The only thing missing from your story, that I recommend you implement, is the Private Property, No Trespassing signs. One at or near the front door, and one at or near the edge of the property (end of driveway). Without them, the "court" views their trespasses as having been invited. There is much too this, (ingress and egress, etc.) too much to go into here,
but it is an absolute necessity to post the signs. You did great not giving your name at your own front door, you are absolutely correct. Tell these clowns they are trespassing, point out the signs, and demand they leave immediately. They have no jurisdiction there, and they know it, I've proven this. Did anyone catch 20/20 this week? John Stossel interviewed an ex-detective from New York, and he told all. He explained how cops will/do pull every trick in the book in an attempt to make you think they have authority over you, when they KNOW they do not. Even on a public street. He said the list of things you can say "NO" to is a long one, and that people should learn what their rights really are when confronted by a police officer. I highly recommend everyone get a transcript of that show.
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Old 06-19-2006, 11:52 PM
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I've been meaning to get a No Trespassing sign up for some time. Any suggestions for content? Anybody have an example? Is it enough just to put "No Trespassing"? Or does the police/auditor/HUD/zoning commissioners/etc. need to be mentioned specifically?
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Old 06-20-2006, 12:10 AM
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I've been meaning to get a No Trespassing sign up for some time. Any suggestions for content? Anybody have an example? Is it enough just to put "No Trespassing"? Or does the police/auditor/HUD/zoning commissioners/etc. need to be mentioned specifically?

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NOTICE

This is a Legal Notice

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Private property for private use

NO TRESPASS

USC 28 and 14


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Old 06-26-2006, 04:45 PM
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Found this in my research today, that looks like a real good "No Trespassing" sign:


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Old 06-26-2006, 07:35 PM
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Citizen no.. Posterity of the people ++++

Ok this is a nice sign but I would not be puting anything on my property stating in any way that I am a citizen......

If that were changed to some way state that this pertained to me as one of the posterity of the people than I might then use it.
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Old 06-26-2006, 09:19 PM
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A better sign would be:

Lean in really close to read this sign. It's where I have the crosshairs zeroed in.
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