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Old 11-21-2006, 09:44 AM
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Nonprofit transit corporation

Anyone have a definition for "nonprofit transit corporation"?

I was doing some research on Code Enforcement Officers' ability to arrest and the local Municipal Code referenced the following section of the Penal Code:
836.5. (a) A public officer or employee, when authorized by
ordinance, may arrest a person without a warrant whenever the officer
or employee has reasonable cause to believe that the person to be
arrested has committed a misdemeanor in the presence of the officer
or employee that is a violation of a statute or ordinance that the
officer or employee has the duty to enforce.
(b) There shall be no civil liability on the part of, and no cause
of action shall arise against, any public officer or employee acting
pursuant to subdivision (a) and within the scope of his or her
authority for false arrest or false imprisonment arising out of any
arrest that is lawful or that the public officer or employee, at the
time of the arrest, had reasonable cause to believe was lawful. No
officer or employee shall be deemed an aggressor or lose his or her
right to self-defense by the use of reasonable force to effect the
arrest, prevent escape, or overcome resistance.
(c) In any case in which a person is arrested pursuant to
subdivision (a) and the person arrested does not demand to be taken
before a magistrate, the public officer or employee making the arrest
shall prepare a written notice to appear and release the person on
his or her promise to appear, as prescribed by Chapter 5C (commencing
with Section 853.5). The provisions of that chapter shall
thereafter apply with reference to any proceeding based upon the
issuance of a written notice to appear pursuant to this authority.
(d) The governing body of a local agency, by ordinance, may
authorize its officers and employees who have the duty to enforce a
statute or ordinance to arrest persons for violations of the statute
or ordinance as provided in subdivision (a).
(e) For purposes of this section, "ordinance" includes an order,
rule, or regulation of any air pollution control district.
(f) For purposes of this section, a "public officer or employee"
includes an officer or employee of a nonprofit transit corporation
wholly owned by a local agency and formed to carry out the purposes
of the local agency.

Basically, the only peeps authorized to arrest you in this State are those who are employed by a nonprofit transit corporation. So what is that?
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Old 11-21-2006, 10:14 AM
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Anyone have a definition for "nonprofit transit corporation"?

Basically, the only peeps authorized to arrest you in this State are those who are employed by a nonprofit transit corporation. So what is that?
What are you?

Are you a state defined juristic person?
Are you a citizen of the US or of any state(See)?
Or are you of the posterity of the people of July4,1776.
That had pointed the business end of their muskets at the red coats and forced them(And King George,The Nights Templar,) out of this nation?

Who upon the revolution became joint tenants in the sovereignty!?

If you are the latter then no one has any authority to arrest you.
But if you are any of the first then you have no right to resist anything that they wish to do to you. Just be a good little slave and do what the massa tells you.


Anyway if you can not find the definition you seek within that statute then you must go to the commonly used diction of the time.
Do not let someone tell you some diction that is found in some law dictionary is a definition.Period.
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Old 11-21-2006, 10:24 AM
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If you are the latter then no one has any authority to arrest you.
But if you are any of the first then you have no right to resist anything that they wish to do to you. Just be a good little slave and do what the massa tells you.


Anyway if you can not find the definition you seek within that statute then you must go to the commonly used diction of the time.
Do not let someone tell you some diction that is found in some law dictionary is a definition.Period.

Thanks, Craig. I'll check a little more. There just wan't much on Google. It all references the same section of the Penal Code.

As far as determining what "I" am. I agree that the State does not have jurisdiction over me. Proving that infront of the local magistrate however based on the information you provided, would be quite a task. I'm trying to take Codee's approach and look in the statues for what I need.

Still looking for the definition. Anyone got one or know where I can find one? This is for California BTW.

Thanks!
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Old 11-21-2006, 10:34 AM
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Thanks, Craig. I'll check a little more. There just wan't much on Google. It all references the same section of the Penal Code.

As far as determining what "I" am. I agree that the State does not have jurisdiction over me. Proving that infront of the local magistrate however based on the information you provided, would be quite a task. I'm trying to take Codee's approach and look in the statues for what I need.

Still looking for the definition. Anyone got one or know where I can find one? This is for California BTW.

Thanks!
Take a look at this post.
http://www.suijuris.net/forum/travel...html#post96378
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Old 11-21-2006, 11:42 AM
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"nonprofit transit corporation" = city bus driver

All this code section is saying, is that any public officer or employee, i.e. anyone working for the city when authorized by ordnance can make an arrest and be covered by the immunity granted in this section. So basically almost anyone working for the city could be authorized to make an arrest, and for purposes of the ordnance, the city bus drivers are also included within this authority since they probably wouldn’t technically be city employees.
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Old 11-21-2006, 11:44 AM
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I read the post thoroughly and it really appears that you know your stuff (i.e., Rule 605). I also Read Weis' post (Weis Dismissed Parts 1 and 2), which were very enlightening.

Respectfully though, have you actually used your aforementioned lack of jurisdiction defense in a courtroom? What has your experience been like?
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Old 11-21-2006, 12:14 PM
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I read the post thoroughly and it really appears that you know your stuff (i.e., Rule 605). I also Read Weis' post (Weis Dismissed Parts 1 and 2), which were very enlightening.

Respectfully though, have you actually used your aforementioned lack of jurisdiction defense in a courtroom? What has your experience been like?
Thanks Gabe;
I'm still learning every day.
No I haven't yet had a chance to use that stuff in the fictional court room as of yet because the last four times that I have been stopped by policy officers they were not able to issue me a ticket that I would need to give them a courtesy call.
It has ended on the street with the policy man (3rd of fourth time )I had quite a conference of 9 cops and 2 liars being called to the roadside were they could not gain jurisdiction over me. 2.5 hours of roadside schooling of policy men no ticket, no arrest.
By the way I still do not have any license plates,registration or driver license.
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Old 11-21-2006, 12:54 PM
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That's the stuff I like to hear! Props to you Craig!

I'm rollin' with paper plates right now. Had em on there since July 2005 when I bought my truck. I'm just waiting for the chance to use what I've learned.

Thanks again for your input.
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